Psycho soldiers?


In this series, there's a mention about the Japanese newspaper saying
"American soldiers full of criminals and psychos are comming"
Lt. Colonel Puller charactor actually said the word "asylum".

Yeah I know this demonizing is a farce.
soldiers dragged from jail I think I heard that before.
But psycho soldiers?
Is that a urban legend or true?

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Psychos being allowed to join the service has never been true. During WWII, many states, including California, enacted emergency legislation to allow men who were in prison to receive parole on the condition that they join the military. This was tightly controlled and only those mentally and physically suitable for military service were taken.

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If I recall the Japanese propaganda stated the US Army recruited it's soldiers from it's prison population of murderers & other felons---and the Marines were supposed to be ESPECIALLY bad: they would have to have convicted of murdering their own families before they were allowed into the Corp...I'm sure it was all in an effort to 'buck up' the fighting spirit of their own soldiers.

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likewise Japanese High Command was intent on keep on fighting even after Hiroshima and and Nagasaki, telling everyone that the bombs were having no effect. Only after Emperor Hirohito ORDERED the surrender did the War end. They also told Women and Children to arm themselves with Bamboo Spears and Pikes and that they were invincible to the invading allies.

"May God have mercy on my enemies as I shall have none"
"George S Patton"

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The Japanese were known to demonize their enemies similar to how the Nazis were able to demonize Jews and Slavs.

Their propaganda is pretty ironic to a degree, considering the fact that the Japanese committed far more barbaric and atrocious crimes.

Let the world change the punishment for sexual-related crimes to execution

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The Japanese were known to demonize their enemies similar to how the Nazis were able to demonize Jews and Slavs.
Everybody demonises their enemies. No exceptions.

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According to this site

http://www.armedforcestimes.com/marines/7th_marines_1st_division.html

there is more to the message than what was revealed on episode 2.


Enemy documents found on dead nips revealed how the Japanese felt about US Marines "The Americans on this Island are not ordinary troops, but Marines, a special force recruited from jails and insane asylums for blood lust. There is no honorable death to prisoners, their arms are cut off, they are staked on this airfield, and run over by steamrollers."


It seems obvious that Japanese high command didn't want their soldiers to surrender under any circumstance.

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There is no honorable death to prisoners, their arms are cut off, they are staked on this airfield, and run over by steamrollers.


Oh, the hypocrisy!

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It is War every side demonized/dehumanized the other side. This makes it easier to kill the enemy without regret. It was especially easy for US troops and Japanese troops to sometime comit what is to considered war crimes to each other's POWS because the two cultures are so different. You call them Nips and Yellow *beep* and the Japanese called white-us soliders Round-Eye Ghost demons, cow *beep*

You get the drift hate is good to rile people up to kill in wars.

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Exactly. Propaganda was deliberately launched to demonize the other side, so it would make your own troops more effective..Military is not a peacefull or humane call.

As for psycho soldiers. There surely wasn't any soldier with mental illness accepted in the Army or USMC, since the individual with severe mental illness is as dangerous to you as is to your enemy.

But the fact is PTSD did occur, during repetitive months of combat, many soldiers lost it much before they actually got out of fighting, and it is responsible for many atrocities commited during combat. So tehnically, US did have many insane soldiers walking around,as did others... But I don't think Japanese propaganda aimed at that, I just think it was a raw propaganda.

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that Japanese propaganda is a bull poo.
Just want to check psycho soldiers thing is a urban legend or not.
Squad full of John Gacy Jr. kind of people sounds quite strong.

thank you for your replies.

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I've read about a pretty notorious squad of German soldiers whose ranks were comprised of men taken from prisons and mental institutions. They committed some of the most atrocious war crimes against civilians and enemy soldiers during the Nazi invasion of Poland....if I remember correctly. (might have been a different country)

"Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see."

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There were TWO of them---the Dirlwanger brigade & the Kaminsky Brigade; they were recruited from prison populations: most were simply thieves & poachers (use 'bandits' to catch 'bandits') but not a few of them were full on psychos---and they were used mainly as 'anti-partisan' troops in the Soviet Union & also in Warsaw...so a bad mix of crummy human beings fighting against 'untermensch' with 'carte blanch' to take any action necessary & they were truly the 'Devil's own'...

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Ah, those were the ones I was thinking of. I remember seeing a picture of the commander of, I believe the Dirlwanger brigade, and the guy just looked like evil personified.

"Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see."

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I just looked at a pic of him: yeah...he looks like a living corpse.

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At least he got what he deserved when he was captured and executed. So many of these types of guys managed to escape after the war and live long lives.

"Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see."

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"Executed"? More like 'frontier justice'--from what I hear he was beaten half to death & allowed to die several days later...and good work to the guys who did it.

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And according to Wikipedia, as recently as 2009, there were supposedly three survivng members of the brigade living in Germany. Polish authorities were going after them.
Too bad Mengele didn't suffer the same fate. That guy dodged every attempt at capture and lived to a ripe old age.

"Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see."

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Fight fire with fire? No point in taking the moral high ground when you advocate the same thing.

Sounds like something Dirlewanger would have done.

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Human nature, I suppose.
It's disappointing to me that war criminals were able to escape and live long, healthy lives. I'm not saying that violence as a way to deal with violence is the solution, but I'm guessing that many of them have no remorse or regrets over their past actions, much like several of the surviving officers from Japan's Unit 731.

"Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see."

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Human nature; yes.

You see a hint of it at the end of The Pacific when Sledge and others go past a group of Japanese prisoners.

But it's one thing to do it in theatre and another thing to defend such things from a long way off.

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Sounds like something Dirlewanger would have done.


Sounds like something Dirlwanger deserved; if he had fallen into the hands of ANY troops with a connection to The East, I doubt he would have gotten anything other than what he did.

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When you think in terms of deserts, you can justify almost anything. It's a matter of opinion (not that I think there'd be any sympathy for someone like him).

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I'm just sayin' that given he wound up in the hands of Polish troops, his fate was pretty much sealed;

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True. As I said, I doubt if a bloke like him would engender much sympathy.

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