Most of Atlantis' episodes are incredibly boring filler, and even worse, that filler repeats the exact same complete and utter lack of "plot" practically every second episode.
Instead of presenting a story, or an interesting/new/groundbreaking SciFi idea, or anything worthwhile, the vast majority of Atlantis episodes follow this terribly unoriginal/uncreative/reekingly stale template:
Characters _________ & _________ & _________ [fill in the blanks with character names; add more slots at will]
...are stuck in a [choose one]:
A> City of Atlantis B> Forest C> Room D> Ship E> Building F> Village G> Random hole
...and must escape before [choose one]:
A> The self-destruct sequence blows up the environment.
B> An enemy ship blows up the environment.
C> A natural disaster blows up the environment and/or otherwise makes it unsafe for humans.
D> The airlock ejects the characters into space.
E> The space disease of the week kills everyone.
F> The characters run out of oxygen.
G> The characters run out of food or water.
H> The enemy spy escapes with secret data.
I> The enemy attacker/occupier has enough time to call in reinforcements.
J> The characters kill each other while their consciousnesses are in the wrong body.
K> Enemy soldiers capture or kill the characters.
...and the crisis will be resolved by: [Must choose Option A]:
A> McKay and/or Zelenka will spout a technobabble speech that will magically & instantly eliminate any and all problems with which the characters have been struggling.
Is anyone going to tell me I'm wrong about this?
Is this what you consider to be "great SciFi writing?!?!?!?!"
An 8.1 rating for this show is ludicrous. As this post has proven, it is nowhere near that good. It's not even SciFi most of the time; it's merely the most boring, unoriginal, and repetitive soap opera ever. Except even self-described soap operas have far more character development. Most of the Atlantis characters received almost zero character development.
Were the writers even trying? It seems like more often than not, they just wrote down whatever crap first popped into their heads until they had written enough literary diarrhea to take up 43 minutes of screen-time. And as long as they had done that, they were satisfied.
"Science creates fictions to explain facts" – Gilman
Did you just put SGA and soap opera in the same phrase? lolwut? defuq??
I agree, the stories aren't quite on par with SG-1, but to go to soap opera is quite a long move, considering SGA's biggest criticism is not having enough character development.
Being stuck is basically the central theme of the show. The very premise of the show is the team being stuck in a place without having a come back way. If it bother's you that much, simply don't watch it, it is not like the show is still on air and you would hurt the rating.
The very first thing they say before going to the stargate to atlantis is that they may be stuck there for good and never get back to earth ever again.
Did you just put SGA and soap opera in the same phrase? lolwut? defuq?? ... to go to soap opera is quite a long move,
I call it that because soap operas are the only type of film that I can think of where nothing happens at all other than a few characters sit or stand around a room and babble at each other. If that formula is not a soap opera, then what would the accurate description of it be?
If it bother's you that much, simply don't watch it,
I watched this show before I made this thread because I got a bargain bin deal on it and because I wanted to see what the fuss was about with it and because before I bought it I had mistakenly thought that it was the show with the Ori in it, who I saw in a few reruns many years ago and who I thought were fairly interesting based on that.
the very premise of the show is the team being stuck in a place without having a come back way ... The very first thing they say before going to the stargate to atlantis is that they may be stuck there for good and never get back to earth ever again.
Then why did they abandon that premise after a few episodes? After the first few episodes, they go back and forth to and from earth all the timeas if it's nothing, both via the gate and via the Daedalus (yes they whine about the 3 week travel time via the ship, but that's still a cakewalk compared to the original premise of "we will probably never see or receive any help from earth again!").
They have what should be a fascinating new galaxy to explore...and instead of exploring it, what do they waste their time doing? Sticking characters into a hole (or room, etc.) for entire episodes so they can have banal mundane conversations with each other. And Atlantis does that not just once, not just a few times --- they do stuff like that all the time. I.e. "Grace Under Pressure" and "Trio" are two of the most plot-less, pointless, and worst of all, mind-numbingly boring films that I've ever had the misfortune to watch. And they are essentially the same episode. And they are just two of a great many of the same episode.
They could have done those same episodes on a soap opera or on any show. They don't require a SciFi premise, or a new galaxy, or any Stargate-world-specific-element whatsoever. Absolute interchangeableness like that is always a telltalle sign of bad writing.
I haven't done a full count, but after watching the whole series, it feels as if 70% or more of it is that kind of repetitive, SciFi-irrelevant, story-less filler.
By the way, the stuff I've said in this post and OP are far from Atlantis' only fatal problems. It also has tons more too. I just don't know when to stop talking for the sake of not making these posts way too long.
Examples of other fatal writing problems: the pilot episode says the wraiths are formidable enemies who are very hard to kill, yet after the pilot, the wraiths are 100% unthreatening jokes who drop like flies with just a few bullets, just like any human would. Teyla even beats a wraith unconscious with a couple of sticks, ROFL!
Likewise, the pilot episode, and the episode where one of the wraith prisoners dies, both say that wraiths can learn whatever info they need simply by feeding on someone who has it --- yet in other episodes, the wraiths have to beg verbally and/or make threats against prisoners in hopes of getting information instead of just taking that information by feeding on them.
Also, the wraiths' healing ability is treated as irrelevant after the first couple of wraith prisoners die. From then on, legions and legions of wraith no longer ever bother to heal when shot. Their healing ability just magically no longer exists.
And I should have added to the OP that each script is full of technobabble filler, not only at the end, but also at every point in the episode. That is another telltale sign of bad writing.
"Science creates fictions to explain facts" – Gilman
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Then why did they abandon that premise after a few episodes? After the first few episodes, they go back and forth to and from earth all the time as if it's nothing, both via the gate and via the Daedalus (yes they whine about the 3 week travel time via the ship, but that's still a cakewalk compared to the original premise of "we will probably never see or receive any help from earth again!").
This is indeed one of the weaker points of the series, it was much better when they were really cut off, but they had to establish contact to earth sooner or later because the story would not have worked otherwise. They were at war and they needed the extra man power and Earth's help. It would have made more sense if Daedalus was their own way there and gate travel too expensive.
But Earth would have made contact at some point, even if the Daedalus class BC weren't yet ready, they could use goa'uld hataks, especially after the system lords were overthrown in SG-1 S8.
So contacting earth made the series work in the larger scope of the series mythology.
Also, the wraiths' healing ability is treated as irrelevant after the first couple of wraith prisoners die. From then on, legions and legions of wraith no longer ever bother to heal when shot. Their healing ability just magically no longer exists.
It actually exists only when the plot needs it. yes, they did downplay the wraith too much, but this is because the Earth contact brought along too many of the technologies acquired by SG-1 in latter seasons, especially when it comes to military..
For example, when the Daedalus got the Asgard beam weapons, the wraiths were pretty much done for. They needed new villains, but by the time they went for it, it was too late. So they tried to make it more personal by having characters stuck all the time.
The rest of us can agree that you don't get my point.
I get your point, although you are also being overly sensitive to it.
If you have never seen a popcorn flick and enjoyed it, then SGA is not for you.
Large portions of this show are "pew pew". It is a pew-pew action show (pew pew, the shooting of guns and rayguns in the cliche sci-fi style). Don't get so hung up on that. It's cheap but it's fun. Loosen up. Or, you know, just don't watch it.
For the large number of predictable A-to-B-to-C patterns, the characters are still enjoyable, and beyond the pew-pew action, if you actually pay attention to the story - yes, it is there - there are actually portions of the show that provide deeper levels of storytelling. Plot. Themes. There are several of them actually, just watch the entire show.
The show has cheap elements to it but that doesn't matter. It's a fun show. It's a good show. There are far more higher quality aspects to the show than the plastic ones.
Don't just watch the action sequences. Or, like I said, don't watch the show at all.
It's your loss.
Okay, well, that's enough for this one. I'm adding you to the ignore list.
But part of my point is that for the most part, this is not even an action show either. Yes, it does have a few action episodes (but even those are poorly done, due to, as I said, the wraith always dropping like flies after the first few episodes).
However, more often than anything else, rather than an action show, it's a show of "we are stuck in a hole/room/ship etc. for 41 minutes, at which point McKay and/or Zelenka will implement a technobabble solution and save us until next week... when the same thing exact thing will happen once again...and in subsequent weeks, it will continue to happen yet again, and again, and again, and again...ad infinitum...right up until we are cancelled!"
Where is the "fun" and "good" in that? Watching episodes like "Grace Under Pressure" or "Inferno" or "Trio" or any of the dozens of others that recycle that same plot are less fun than watching grass grow or watching paint dry.
"Science creates fictions to explain facts" – Gilman