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Stane lacked the depth from the comic though

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Iron Man 3 is actually really good to me. Making the Mandarin a white guy when the middle eastern "terrorist" was really just an act, was really creative. The way I see it, it was kind of Marvel's way of taking a crack at racism.

I agree though that it was kind of unfaithful to the comics and many fans saw it as a betrayal. Mandarin was always my favorite iron Man villain, so I had anticipated his arrival into the MCU since the first film. In the theater I was kind of mad that they didn't follow through with Ben Kingsley being the mandarin. In hindsight, I think the movie would be a lot stronger without that unnecessary plot twist

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They made the Mandarin a white guy because Disney bought the franchise and they had to be politically correct They also had to make Pepper a stronger person than Tony.

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Lol, check this out.

The film’s terrorist turns out to be a white guy = politically correct because Disney says only white guys can be bad and non-white males aren’t even though I know full well they are. How about that? (Any reports showing my dear white males terrorizing citizens and committing crimes...fake news!!!). 🙄

Movie deals with Tony being at his lowest point and shows how vulnerable he becomes as a result of ptsd, but by the end of the film he perseveres and comes out being stronger than ever = they made Pepper a strong person so idc about Tony’s character development, icky woman shouldn’t be made to look strong.

Ah, the irony with the anti-PC crowd. Youse babies are actually more PC than those you accuse of being PC (“keep things they way they used to be! Don’t throw facts at me!”). Strong woman? White guys being made to look bad? Awww, somebody’s feewings got hurt. XD I know you wish Disney were still stuck in the days of blackface, but sucka luckily those days are over. So keep whining.

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You are the one who is whining. I simply pointed out something. I couldn't care less who the Mandarin is or who Disney was. I've never followed them.

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I agree this is the best Iron Man film, but I liked all of them! They each had their own merits.

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There's no reasons need to be given, seeing as the consensus is the first movie is near perfection, whereas the sequels are not even considered good.

Well actually, Iron Man 3 received solid reviews and was generally well-liked upon its release. In my view, its success was warranted. Despite its Mandarin twist (which frankly amuses me more than it annoys) and somewhat inconsistent script, 3 is a fairly underrated movie to me. The tone, action, and Tony's story are the movie's strongest points.

All in all, the game-changing first movie is miles above and still feels as fresh as ever. Its story is straightforward but it’s all in the film’s details and execution that made “Iron Man” shine like no superhero movie before it.

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It was the best Iron Man movie, although I think Iron Man 2 is unfairly panned by a lot of people. Iron Man 3 was just a SJW crock of garbage that Disney interfered with and nearly ruined. That's why Disney doesn't interfere anymore with the MCU. Kevin Feige likely had a nice, tense conversation with Iger over that mess. Look what SJW has done to Star Wars. It's ruined it! Better Star Wars than the MCU though. I hope Feige is in charge of the MCU for a long, long, long time.

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It seems strange to me how recently Iron Man has become heralded by many as a classic of the genre.

It was a reasonably fun film at the time but other than kickstarting the MCU there was nothing in and of itself that was in any way groundbreaking. What makes it is Robert Downey Jr's persona. A watered down version of the persona he'd just cultivated a year or two earlier in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. A far more distinctive film that is easily more deserving of classic status.

Considering the comic book movies that were being released at the time, Iron Man felt like a big step back. Back then we were being blessed frequently with comic book films made by interesting directors that each brought something new to their work and gave their subject some depth. Sam Raimi's Spiderman films, Batman Begins, Sin City, X-Men 1 and 2, Hellboy, even The Dark Knight was released the same summer.

Take Downey Jr out of the equation and you'd be left with a conventional, run of the mill narrative accompanied by a bland directorial style and 3 action scenes that last about 3 seconds long (Ok, Stark breaking out of the cave in the old fashioned suit was pretty damn cool).

The film has nothing to say, no depth, doesn't explore any interesting issues and, with the exception of the post credits Nick Fury cameo to signal what's to come, does nothing new.

Maybe there is some kind of inner depth, subtext or element it brings to the table that I simply missed. And if so I'd be interested in hearing it. But all I can see is a film that's a bit of fun. And there are thousands of films that have been released over the years that are a bit of fun and have not been hailed as classics. I even see it in lists above the likes of Spiderman sometimes! The influential film that initially demonstrated how comic books were supposed to be adapted.

The only reason I can fathom is that because it led to a whole extended universe people look back on it with rose tinted glasses.

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I agree with all of your points. In fact, when I was watching this in theater I felt the Iron Man vs jetfighters scene was unimportant and tacked on.

That said, I respect this movie more now because it brought something new. After all this time the only superhero movies we get is just Hulk, Batman, Superman, Wolverine and Spider-Man. Most people knew already those characters, their stories.

Iron Man, unlike Watchmen, succesfully brought obscure characters into the mainstream. That's a big deal. They succeed when others have failed.

This opened ways for other B-grade characters like Thor, Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, etc. It's how they make an unknown character story appealing to a wider audience is actually a breakthrough. Even today, other filmmakers are still struggling to do what Iron Man did.

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Because, it's unlike its (awful) sequels.


Everything that needed to be said.

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Would love to see Jeff Bridges return to fight against Thanos in the next movie, he was a bad guy sure, but that can be forgiven.

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