Ginger IS alive in GS4!!! - Ginger Snaps Back: The Beginning (2004) Discussion

[–] jermii 20 years ago

She's dead. Rewatch the prequel. You obviously were not listening. When Ginger and Brigitte went back to see the old woman, she told Ginger she was supposed to kill the boy BEFORE he bit her. Ginger and Brigitte just turned it around. They didn't know what she meant, until Ginger was bitten. So, even if Ginger had killed the little boy, she would've still transformed into a beast. Like i said, rewatch the movie. This time try and listen ;)

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[–] Cutter22 20 years ago

You're reading too much into the movie, Ginger isn't alive in Unleashed. I'm pretty sure if they do make a GS4, then B will tear that little whooore Ghost into pieces, but other than that I can't really think what other possibilites they could do in GS4, and no artizon, your possibilites are flawed, so don't try and tell me they could use them. Gingers hot tho, I wanna see her in more movies, like one I'll make, with my video camera and a cage full of gerbils....jk, I'm not richard gere

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[–] rossrobinson 20 years ago

Ginger was a ghost in the 2nd movie, she was dead because her sister Brigette killed her.

r.robinson

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[–] Cyber-Faery 20 years ago

i personally don't think ginger was a ghost, i think that bridgette just saw her in her mind. after all if your sister who was also your best friend died, i think you might try to believe/pretend she was still around as well.

I know it's nit picking but just my opinion.

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[–] scorpio1386 20 years ago

also, in Ginger Snaps Back, Ginger sees the boy that bit her as a little boy and everything. So maybe its a natural thing for them to imagine the person that bit them. A sort of connection thing.

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[–] bunny_carlos 20 years ago

My idea which I posted in the Ginger snaps first film page, is GS4: Suburban Legend.

You know how just abput every town and even just parts of town all hae the house that something happened or like in San Antonio the train tracks where the school bus was hit. If you park on the tracks in neutral with no brake your car will roll off by itself. And there will be hand prints on the back.

Any who, the beast of Bailey Downs is alive and well and every full moon either there are animal mutilations or people going missing and the Fitgerald house which has been abandoned sometimes has lights in the window.

Along comes either the twin brother of the dad, or the twin Martha Stewart's hell-spawn, Pam. Because twins are hereditary, it goes to show that they have twin girls, fraternal of course. Unlike before, these girls are the picture of mental health. The red-head who people start calling Ginger, tries out for cheerleader (which is weird because I don't think Canada uses cheerleaders) and the other is like campus-crusader. It's not until things start to happen that they start to get tougher and the dark side comes out naturally.

and the kicker is that even though there are claw marks on doors, cars and mutilated bodies... it's PAM who has gone over the edge and thinks she is a were wolf.

I'm sure the writers will come up with something like this or just as interesting.

stay warm.

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[–] artizon 20 years ago

That's really good!

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[–] tony909ca 19 years ago

that is ridiculous there is no way they would make that movie it's a pathetic attempt to keep the ginger snaps franchise going

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[–] Khulozz 17 years ago

Suburban Legend is the coolest name! And so long as the two stars are in it I know I would love it, no matter how "crappy" it is. If only it was picked up again. Here's to hopin'

"Yeah... well I'm taller."

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[–] punkvenji 17 years ago

Because twins are hereditary, it goes to show that they have twin girls, fraternal of course.

Ginger and Bridgitte were sisters, not twins. They were in the same year because Bridgitte skipped a class. Cool idea nevertheless.

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[–] krista-moser 17 years ago

Haha thats funny "Canada doesn't use cheerleaders" You must be american, do you also beleive we live in igloos??

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[–] dmund21 20 years ago

the whole seing ghosts thing? any connection (homage) maybe to American Werewolf in London?

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[–] Defyence 19 years ago

I think it's the same idea here. They're just using the word "ghost" because it's a lot faster than "deceased-sister-who-she-sees-only-in-her-mind". Call it crazy. xD

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[–] robina5-1 17 years ago

all this time i've been living with the pretence that if she had have killed the boy in the graveyard then she wouldn't have changed. also, makes B's cave, drug-induced premonition all the more important....if she didnt fulfil it then she would be doomed.....cheery thought for the day!

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[–] JassoJasso 20 years ago

I thought the movie was kind of stupid but it's Ginger Snaps so I love it. I think that they are the Ginger and Brigette from the first movie and this movie was setting viewers up for the idea that this is their destiny and that in every life they will repeat this pattern.

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[–] aconitumjunkie 20 years ago

Well, I like the idea that GS3 is actually a sequel. That this 18th century fort is a limbo for the dead Ginger. Where her fate as the beast repeats itself. The film finishes on the outcome they wanted both girls alive.

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[–] Apollo89 20 years ago

i agree with overton that the sisters come back every other lifetime and repeat the same pattern-maybe sometimes a sister will die maybe theyll both be together. i think the 3rd one is explaining the 'together forever' pact and thats why theyll come back every other generation and be 'together forever'

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[–] paulh2o 20 years ago

It also says in the first film, that you should forget the movie stuff, what you are really dealing with is an infection. Which is proven in the third (prequel) film, as each person that gets bitten carries on changing. And you can assume that both Ginger and Brigette realise what's actually going on, and what they first believed was rubbish.

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[–] rainbowryder81 20 years ago

Believe it or not I could totally see a fourth installment. I dont know if they would continue with the prequel or continue poor Brigettes torment living in the brat Ghosts basement. It would be cool though if there could be some sort of twist on the plot from the first one. Ginger did not die, B just thought she did and some how Ginger comes back to save B from Ghosts slavery. I dont know maybe bring the whole control aspect into the movie? Like in The Howling it is even said there to forget about the movies. They say that werewolves are mearly just shapeshifters and can change at will! Maybe Ginger and B can go off learning that they can control themselves better to survive in society. Of coarse they would make things more difficult then that but it would be interesting I think. I did enjoy 3 however. I just wish they would have explained a little more on how the sisters really became stranded in the great white north.

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[–] artizon 20 years ago

Not to mention, lycanthropes regenerate to some extent. If Brigitte got stabbed in the chest in GS2 and it instantly healed, I think Ginger easily could be healed.

Blood and Chocolate

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[–] rainbowryder81 20 years ago

Exactly...thats why I think it would be possible to bring Ginger back. You cant have GS movie without Ginger. It's not fun without her!

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[–] zombie_cran 20 years ago

if there were to be another ginger snaps sequel it would seemingly have to be without emily perkins or katharine isabelle... i don't know how i feel about that. the two of them have been in the previous movies so to make a sequel without them has me feeling weird....

tatiana maslany would great, again, as ghost but still it wouldn't be a ginger snaps movie without katharine isabelle and emily perkins in it.

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[–] nailhead 20 years ago

The fact that it says if you kill the infector, the curse is lifted and B having killed Ginger in the first film though continuing to change absolutely does not prove that Ginger is still alive. There could be a variety of explanations. The same goes with the end of GSB...

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[–] zombie_cran 20 years ago

no you misunderstood.. the curse is not lifted when you kill the infector! the oracle lady said you need to kill the infector before your bitten. sooo yeah its there forever once you get bitten.

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[–] Rocket50 20 years ago

It seems to me that none of the standard werewolf rules apply here. The change is an ongoing event, not just something that happens when the moon is full. Also, the werewolves attack the fort during the day and when they are killed they don't change back to their human form. It seems that once you change, you can't change back. I do agree that these sisters are cursed and continue to show up generation after generation. Therefore, it wouldn't be impossible for Ginger to show up again. It would just be in a different time period. Think about it. How can the two sisters from GS3 be the same sisters in GS1 and GS2 decades later? They can't. But they could be some reincarnation of the sisters. Just my thoughts.

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[–] surround_sound_master 20 years ago

maybe they'll make a sequel with them in the future. kind of like I Robot

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[–] ctizon 20 years ago

That would be cool.

P.S. Please, no more posts involving how I was wrong about the curse thingy (I'm artizon, I just changed my username.) We've already established that fact.

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[–] EdenInBabylon 20 years ago

I read a comment from the first film's board on the weird way Pamela reacts to the dead body the girls buried. Maybe if they are actually the reincarnations of GS3's Bridgette and Ginger, the mother was somehow expecting it? Like maybe a family legend passed down through the ages. It just waits for Ginger and Bridgette to be born again, and then it finds them and everything repeats. If this is actually a theme they are going for, if there is a fourth one, they can go back further to show the original way they were cursed for eternity.

On a side note, did anyone notice the similarities between "Ginger Snaps" and that new Wes Craven movie "Cursed"? (kids get bitten, slowly start to transform etc..)

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[–] Violet_Loves_Iliona 16 years ago

Also remember that at the end of Ginger Snaps Back (the prequel), Brigitte states that now that the red and the black have joined together, their line is now far more powerful - even if killing the original turned you back in the pre-Canada days, after the joining o the red and the black it probably became too strong to ever be undone.

... Which makes me wonder what ever happened to Jason McCarty!

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[–] AaronMorris876 19 years ago

some of u ppl realli take this *beep* 2 seriously, honestly. There isnt gonna be a gs4, that wud juss be a sad attempt 2 keep the franchise goin. Also, in the third 1, its them in a past life, not sum alternate reality, or limbo.m Listen 2 what Briggitte says at the beginning!

"out by sixteen or dead in the scnene but together forever"

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[–] IOS62096 20 years ago

Here's a clue...... Ever notice nobody else ever sees or talks to Ginger in the 2nd movie but Bridgette.

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[–] c_renay 19 years ago

becuz she is in brigittes head lol ginger isnt really there, therefor no one can see her

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[–] miamiloverg 19 years ago

I think if they were to do another GS it would HAVE to include both G & B because it would be a 4th movie they would have to insure it's success and the only way to do that would be too have both girls....

screw Ghost she was annoying, what I would like to see is Ginger rescuing B and killing Ghost. Then after that they don't change for a while, they are thinking that they may be cured and attempt to go back to high school. They will be seniors and are hoping that soon they'r nightmare will be over, but although they are no longer in baily Downs "the beast" still exists. And animals are once again being mauled, in this installment G&B take on a more... "Kate Beckisdale ala/ Underworld" role. They are kind helping others w/o knowing it by trying to kill the beast.....

Oh and They become the more popular notion of werwolfves (instead of once you change you can't change back) They can change at will and do their biding as they please.
Thats the one thing that annoyed me, I like it when werwolves can change back to humans....

So in this film the sisters can be together...

forever

PS werwolves are supposed to be imortal just like vampires (see Underworld)

or... maybe therecould be a mixing of the species in GS4 (again see Underworld)

yes I'm obssesed with Underworld lol

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[–] FireBucket 19 years ago

People keep talking about the werewolf transformation as just that, but it is far more than just turning into a werewolf. The theme to Ginger Snaps was not entirely about Ginger and her werewolf transformation, but about her sexual transformation, going through puberty and growing up. That is what the werewolf transformation is supposed to represent. Now Ginger Snaps Unleashed continued this metaphor to a lesser extent, however it was still there.

Ginger Snaps back was an infinity, it's like an alternate timeline, it didn't happen in the same timeline as the original 2 films. It strays away from the themes and undertone sof the original two, but it does stick to the theme of Bridgettes undieing love for her sister. If soemthing is said about a transformattion in GSB, it will not count in GS/GSU.

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[–] ctizon 19 years ago

i believe the next one should just focus on Ghost getting plastic surgery to look just like Ginger in order to control Brigitte, and rather than have Brigitte as a complete werewolf in the movie, but not completely human, make her look like she did when she was still in the cellar towards the end of GS2 right before she got locked in.

This is the perfect chance to have Brigitte and Ginger together again in a GS movie- let Ghost take on her role, then become possessed by the actual spirit.

http://www.xanga.com/MoonlightSonata13/

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[–] c_renay 19 years ago

OooOO thats kinda cool sounding lol i like the idea of ghost being possessed by ginger lol thats awesome

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[–] lunarsandwich 19 years ago

I'm just gonna say one thing.

Meh. Ghost sucks. Brigitte shouldn't have transformed, and Ginger is dead. Also, the film is set in 1815. It is stated at some point. Just look at all the gravestones.

Also, Brigitte is hot.

<_<

>_>

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[–] Defyence 19 years ago

That was many things, but entertaining. E for Effort! ^^

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[–] c_renay 19 years ago

LMAO ahaha man that post was funny lol

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[–] theamericanidiotisonahol 19 years ago

ok ppl...i watched the first GS last nite..and G died right? so then..today i am going to rent the 2nd one. Brigette is the only one alive in this one right? she is in a mental hospital or whatever..and she turns into a werewolf and see's her sister in her mind? but whata bout the 3rd GS..how is Ginger alive if she died in the first one>?

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[–] ctizon 19 years ago

the third one was a prequel. and they played the ancestors of th ones in 1 and 2.

http://www.xanga.com/Jisatsu_Saakuru/

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[–] adam_296 19 years ago

I dont think there should be another GS, that'd just be way over-doing it.
But in the event that there is one, how does this sound:

Brigette (being infected by swapping blood rather then biten) is a unique hybrid werewolf that has retained some of her intellegents but ultimately has regressed mentally to an animal due to the unconventional way she was infected.
With memories of her sister and having Ginger come to her as a figment of her imagination, she creates an illusion of Ginger to act as a crutch for her to deal with being locked in the basement as she slowly goes further and further insane as (or as insane as a half beast lady can get).
Ghost finally lets Brigette out of the basement to let her kill Barbara but things dont go according to her plan and brigette kills ghost and escapes.
Now free, brigette tries to find civilisation but because she is a deformed half-beast, people are afraid of her and she cant understand why (insanity and mental regression - think 'Elephant Man'), anyway Ginger is by her side the whole time and tries to convince Brigette to follow all her animal instincts and hunt humans. At the same time military squads have been called in to eliminate the threat.

lol, something like that.
I really like the different ways to transformations occur, like for example Jason was infected in the first movie by sex, Ginger by bite and Brigette by swapping blood. And for those three they change differently, Jason's seems to be more like a disease as he gets pimples or boils or whatever those things on his face are, Ginger seems to get sexy durin her transformation :P , and Brigettes is more of a mutation. So they could potentially focus on that.

Anyway thats my 2 cents.

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[–] c_renay 19 years ago

wow thats like a really good idea lol e-mail me sometime [email protected] or if you have MSN messenger add me lol

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[–] ctizon 19 years ago

Awesome. That's a lot like my idea for a sequel- a fanfic. I'm only 41 pages into it right now.

In mine, Brigitte has remained half werewolf, half human because she was the only one to shoot up so much monkshood. And when we open, she kills Barbara and escapes from Ghost. From the get-go, Ginger is guiding her, telling her that in order to be together forever they need to overcome several obstacles (in this, Ginger is presented as a real ghost, as she appears to other people). Brigitte manages to thwart an attack made on her by people sent by Ghost and then sells their guns in order to make enough money to fly to the Philippines, where she has a pen pal and she can rely only on him. After Ghost comes after her personally and she presumably kills Ghost, Ginger reveals to her that she had possessed Ghost and when she had locked her up, it was for them to be together forever. So now, she has to find another body to be her host. So Brigitte flies over to her pen pal and the real Ghost follows them because she wants revenge on Brigitte and Ginger violating her spirit and then trying to kill her. And once this threat is over, Ginger has possessed someone, and there is an exorcism being done. So Brigitte must find a way to stop the esorcism without getting blood on her hands.

So sucky, I know. The first 40 or so pages have an awful lot happening, but are a buildup nonetheless.

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[–] AaronMorris876 19 years ago

kinda wierd... no offence.

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[–] DarkDon 19 years ago

I think that the films should be left now, its better to remmember the legacy than to drag it on in very unlikely ways. It would be good to se the girls in another film but i very much doubt it would be good, and quite frankley i dont think it would be a good career move for either of them. Emily Perkins is in her late 20's now i dont think she would want to do another...

The the idea of that weird bi-atch Ghost getting whats coming to her is cool though!

Only plausible sequal maybe.... sequal to snaps back, as neither of them is a whole were wolf yet, maybe they change there minds and dont want to transform or somthing...

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[–] adam_296 19 years ago

No offense lost_pplz but that idea is so far away from the tone of the original trilogy that it would not work at all.
Ghost has no friends, how can she send people after bridgette?
Where did this mysterious penpal come from? if Bridgettes attitude in the first film indicates anything its that she is against almost everything normal people do.
Selling guns to buy plane tickets? sounds like something from an amatuer gangster movie.

The Ginger Snaps movies always deal with heavier themes (always revolving around coming-of-age) so something like a half-werewolf actually being able to catch a flight seems pretty ridiculous.

It's a nice fanfic you can entertain yourself with but you wouldnt get anywhere if you actually intend to use your idea seriously, please dont take it personally.

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[–] TurnerRocks 17 years ago

my idea is to continue right after GSB where it left off. The story would focus around B and Ginger as they terrorize other trading posts in Canada. They would both begin to change into werewolves. Then indian hunters and other people try to kill them...

Thats my idea

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[–] allenalberson 17 years ago

I think everyone who fell in love with the sisters would love to see a fourth movie. I also think everyone would have to admit how close to impossible it would be to make a fourth movie that wouldn't be horrible. the series was special because it wasn't just a formula horror movie. A lot of people have put out decent ideas for a movie, but none of those come close to what this series was about. I don't want to see two werewolf sisters terrorizing Canada. I want to see Ginger and Brigette. I think a futuristic movie would be laughable. maybe if a film was set at some point after GS2 and Brigette and Ginger were able to end the curse, not just become human but break the curse of red and black, that might work. Then the series would need to end but would most liklely fall into some unscrupulous directors hands and become another laughable horror series.

I miss B and Ginger, but I dont want their memory tarnished.