Slap Scene
Man i was disgusted when that french sob slapped angelina, u never hit a woman. shocking!
shareMan i was disgusted when that french sob slapped angelina, u never hit a woman. shocking!
shareu never hit a woman
Why, because we are weaker and can not hit back??
Hey I've been in a firefight before, well I was in a fire...actually I was fired.
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What i am not condoning is people who think you should not hit a woman just because she is weaker. If a guy hit me, i would hit him right back. If a woman hit me, i would hit her right back. It just pisses me off when people say that.
Hey I've been in a firefight before, well I was in a fire...actually I was fired.
ur pissed off at people saying that yea?, think about it, people who have grown up watching women getting beaten, children from a home with domestic abuse, what do they turn round and " oh its ok she can be hit because if she isnt she be called the weaker sex", uve turned a simple thing to which i think isnt right in to an argument
shareYa know what, you just don't get it.
Hey I've been in a firefight before, well I was in a fire...actually I was fired.
Well, slapping isn't really hitting, is it? She probably wouldn't even have a bruise. It's more like "I'm really pissed," not "I'm a woman beater".
But I kind of agree that you shouldn't hit women. Women are usually smaller and weaker, so if a man and a woman really got into a fight, it's just a fact that the woman's likely to lose. Of course, the woman could take karate or something and be able to kick a big guy's ass, but your average lady who isn't prepared in the ways of combat would probably lose. Six foot tall, two hundred pound guy versus five foot five, one hundred and twenty pound lady. You see what I mean?
So if FreelanceStuntdouble hit the guy back and they got into a fight, it probably wouldn't end well for her. But the guy shouldn't get in trouble based simply on gender... I think it's a confusing issue.
This whole thread is off-topic... But talking about the actual scene, my opinion is that French guy overreacted and slapping her didn't really solve anything. She already felt bad enough, and he had thought the case was over, too, so it's not like she was trying to mess things up or anything.
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Ya know what, you just don't get it.
Ok i am not trying to get in this conversation but my mom was hit by my dad alot of times and i was probably around 6 or 7 when it started he was an alcoholic so if he was drunk or dry he would just get upset over nothing. I a now 16 and my mom left him when i was probably around 9 or 10. The problem i have is the fact that you say women can leave well yes they have the right to leave but most of the time the wife stays because of the kids and some times its a case where the husband will tell her if she leaves he'll kill her or something which makes the women scared. The wife can leave but once she leaves the hsband can always come to her house or her apartment and try to kill her and even if she goes to the police of course they will give her a little piee of paper that says he cant come so many yards from you or your children. The problem with this the husband can still come and kill the wife. Now mabe sometimes the stupid husband will leave the wife alone and im not saying all men are stupid im just saying the guys who think that they have all the right to hit a women are the stupid ones. Sorry to say this but alot of men only know how to resolve an argument by hitting someone now i think this is where the women are stronger. Most women resolve their problems by talking and men tend to resolve by fist fighting. Thats my opinion you cant cahnge my mind on that.
But one other thing im not sayind all men resolve their problems by hitting for example my step dad whos been with my mom for 8 years has always resolved the problem by talking to her. All men are loving and caring but their are some that just dont know what o do they think the onkly way to reslove it is by hitting i guess you can blame that on the parents.
Sorry to hear that.
The answer lies in the genes. I've seen a study which had male and female participants (they were all about 1 year olds). They've put them (seperately) behind a plexy glass wall that was twice their height. The mother was standing on the other side of the glass.
What happened? The females tried to get to their mother, but ofcourse couldn't, so they dropped down on the ground and started crying. The male portion of the experiment started banging on the glass and crying.
See, at age one there's a difference present. Now the most important thing is how the person will grow up... The gene isn't changeable, but experience and socialization skills are.
And (I'm guessing you're female) I hope you won't let your (moms) bad experience make you hate men in general.
Oh, and just a suggestion. When moving/running away from an abusive husband, 1. take your kids with you, 2. don't tell anyone where you're going!
"Moments lost in Time like Tears in Rain . . . "
that's stupid. If a guy is abused by his partner (I don't think it's common for straight guys, but gay guys are abused sometimes) that's just as bad. It isn't bad because of the gender of the person being abused, abuse itself is bad.
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"The last thing you wanna do is give a guy the green light. 'Cause they'll sure enough take it."
I resent that. Men aren't callous, evil Neanderthals, waiting for just the right moment to pop a woman in the mouth. You make it sound like the ONLY reason a man doesn't hit woman is because it's illegal. I'm offended by your remark, but of course I'm a man and the oppressor so I'm not allowed to be offended. Isn't that how the double-standard works? The gender wars are over; women won.
Don't get me wrong; I disliked the character even more after he slapped Jolie's character. I do think spousal abuse is wrong, but men hitting women is a much rarer occurence than your women studies teacher scared you into believing. In fact women are almost as prone to violence against men as the reverse, primarily because they know it's socially unnacceptable to hit a woman and therefore don't have any fear of being hit back. It also goes unreported much more often than the reverse because of the cultural stigma of getting "beat up by a girl." There are statistics perpetuated that 22% to 35% of emergency room cases are related to domestic assault, when the truth is that it's less than 1%. [source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/comment/2001-02-08-ncguest2.htm] That is just the tip of the iceberg. I can bombard you with facts all night if you'd like, but I don't want to hijack this thread into a debate about domestic violence. Please, just think before you say something stupid.
P.S. Before you dust off your 'facts' about the origins of the phrase "rule of thumb" or how spousal abuse increases on Super Bowl Sunday, do me a small favor and do some actual research. You'll find most male-demonizing factoids like those are completely mythical and perhaps you'll learn that women aren't the oppressed victims the radical feminists want to believe they are.
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Excellent post, joe. Couldn't have said it better myself.
share-slaps this thread.
shareHeh, talk about injecting humour into a serious thread. Back on topic, I wouldn't hit a woman unless it was self-defense. Some dames are real tigers. I'm actually dating one. =/
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"We're paratroopers, Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded."
In the rated version, she says "I'm fine." after she got slapped. In the unrated version, that line is removed. Isn't that interesting? I wonder why that is.
sharei really liked the slap. He was pissed at her for the loss of his friend.And also she f...ed the killer.I would be pissed to!I dont think you should hit a woman! but in this situation guy or girl dont bring your work home!
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I have to agree with your post 100%. girly 6 9. It was a great scene. The cop was chauvenistic and expected her to screw up, for all the wrong reasons. Then it turns out that she screwed up exactly as he expected. And it got his friend and partner killed. Plus, she was so overcome by what she sees when the elevator doors opened that she lets the psychopath get away.
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There are no stupid questions. Just questions from stupid people.
i dont think its a matter of thinking we're the weaker sex, i think its a left over from the gentleman period - in that it's not 'gentlemanly' to hit a woman...and they would also say its not 'ladylike' to hit another. and back then it was considered 'gentlemanly' to fight another man over the sake of honor but not if ones drunk.
so really when someone says you shouldnt hit a woman it's not a reflection of what they think about women its a reflection of what they think it is to be a man
Nobody should hit anybody.
"The King wore enough clothes for both of us." Mohandes Ghandi
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that was the only good scene in the movie
shareit was a physical expresion of anger toward the "finer" (not "weaker") sex.
Traditionaly it's a mans job to protect and care for women. This shows weak character, low self control and a violent and disrespectful view towards women.
imho
"The Battle of the Sexes" a classic topic...
Well, forgive for straying off topic when I say, I did resent that the guy hit her. Not for sexist reasons, but because simply it seemed uncalled for.
The case was over, everyone else believed it just as much as Scott did. Besides, she did remain professional althroughout the case. It was clear that Scott was getting emotionally attached to the witness and I honestly don't think that the circumstances would have been better or worse if she didn't get sexually involved with Asher- which in the end is what helped the capture.
Asher was a slick bastard and from what I could tell no one saw or even suspected what came and went. So really no one was at fault, especially not Agent Scott- which without her the investigation wouldn't have gone anywhere anyways.
PS: If Jolie's character was a man, I'd still resent the impulsive, aggressive reaction.
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if she was a man it would have been a punch.
maybe a few
Browser is right
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Oh for chrissake it's only a movie! Plus coming from a woman's pov, if that were my partner, and my "top agent" just screwed everyone over, by letting emotions getting in the way of an extremely serious investigation that has been open for years, by having a fiesta of sex with the suspect, and cost the lives of innocent people for her irresponsible actions? She's damn lucky she is only getting hit.
try so hard to make the pieces all fit...smash them apart just for the f*@k of it.
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i think basically in general nobody should hit anyone, male or female.
shareJust a little fact. Men get abused too, it may not be out there or as much as women but there are cases where men are abused by their woman just as bad.
BUT yes like many people said. Just in general, people shouldn't be hitting each other especially in a relationship. Abuse towards anyone is bad and physically fighting with each other is just juvenile.
I f-cking HATED that guy when he pulled that sh!t. At least Martin had an excuse for beating her up - he's a f-cking murderous psychopath. But that french mofo was just a sexist bastard; you could tell from the jump. He was just WAITING for the opportunity to do something like that. He really grated on me.
The popularity of this thread is proof that people are morons. One guy states his opinion that he gets disgusted and shocked when he sees a woman get slapped on TV....and there are actually people who can get upset and disagree with this opinion., that's IMDb for you. share
Boggles my freakin' mind.
You Shouldn't hit anyone, fact.
Hitting a man is as morally condamnable as hitting a women, except if you are living in the jungle.
And don't forget it's a movie. If even movies don't show shocking things, how boring would it be.