I never mentioned how much I hated this movie when it first came out, but they keep replaying it on television and it reminds me of how much I hate it!
Could this family be anymore rude, nasty, holier than though, pretentious???...ugh! just every nasty word you can think of ....that's what I think of The Stone Family!
So they don't like someone because she is uptight and wears her hair up in a bun and isn't who they want for their precious Everett?...by the way...what a joke of a man he is!!
A houseguest is treated soooooo horribly and her sister takes off with her fiance and we are all supposed to be okay with this???? are you kidding me????
aaaw such wonderful holiday cheer....give me a break!
May this movie rot in cable limbo until it phases out forever!
You obviously missed the point of that scene. Or, were you even present?
The mother said that she PRAYED for her children to be gay. Meredith was simply stating that life was already pretty hard she couldn't believe that someone would pray for their children to be gay in such a cruel world where often gay people are mocked and made fun of.
This is NOT an anti homosexual stance, this was her being genuinely shocked knowing how cruel kids can be that someone would wish something on their own children. O_O...
Then the MOTHER proceeds to SCREAMMMMMM at her. In fact if I recall correctly, in the middle of Meredith trying to gently say that the world is hard enough as it is Cybil SCREAMS "SHUTTTT UPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!"
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Wow, so Meredith is being a jerk for caring and not believing that in a cruel world a mother would want her children to be gay...
Nope, the mother screamed because she said 'any parent would wish for a NORMAL child' - that was the breaking point, that she implied being gay wasn't 'normal'. Earlier in the conversation she said being gay was like being 'challenged'.
Definitely homophobic statements, even if it was well-intentioned.
And personally, if I was gay, sitting at my family dinner table, I would find it incredibly rude for an outsider (or anyone) to imply that my mother shouldn't have wanted me exactly as I am.
Look at it another way: it can be incredibly hard to be non-white in some places, but that doesn't mean it would be ok for someone to wish for white grandchildren because of that. Instead you wish for (and work towards) there being less racism. The implication of Meredith's statement was that being LGBT is like having a handicap / having a disability - which, I'm sorry, *is* offensive.
Just 'cause life can be harder for LGBT people or non-white people doesn't mean we should wish for *less* diversity in the world - we should instead be focusing on the reason life is harder - the homophobes and racists, and trying to educate and punish them for what they do.
Family Stone 2:The Black Plague. I'd totally watch that. The would refuse to call it 'The Black Plague' even as they died of it because that would be racist.
I didn't like this movie the first time I saw it. The gay interracial couple with the deafness and adopting a baby - the beatific smiles from everyone, the 'we're all on the same page except for YOU' vibe. All of it stunk.
Then I watched it again last night. I didn't expect much. With low, low expectations, I liked it much more. The mom, played by Diane Keaton, pounding the table when SJP said that life gives you tough stuff to begin with, why add to it? Who would say that's what you want, as a parent... You would say that you love the child you get, whatever they bring with them. But throwing a fit at the table was as 'off the wall' as the SJP character even bringing it up to begin with. She was said to deal with Asian clients in her business. Of all people, she would know how to tailor her message to a crowd.
What I liked anyway about the movie was how Diane Keaton expressed sadness while still being Mrs. Mary Sunshine around the house with her family. Not a family I would ever want to deal with. I know families like this - they can ruin a marriage when one partner doesn't know how to play that game! I also liked the very very good evocation of cold on the outside (snow and wet) while warm on the inside (the huge expensive house with the blazing fireplace and many rooms.) If you liked the SJP character at all - I did - that was an apt metaphor for her character. Her gift at Christmas was the best of all.
Gosh...Never looked at the page for this movie before. I personally love this movie. I watch it at Christmas time every year since it first hit theaters. The whole story just really hit close to home. Especially Diane Keatons character. I can't believe so many people are posting negative reviews. This movie is in my top 3!
If you hate the movie then why the hell are you on a board dedicated about it?
I was wondering the same thing. In fact, I've wondered that for virtually any TV or movie - who the hell finishes watching something they don't like and then think, "I'm going to log onto IMDb just so I can talk about how much I hated this."
Critiquing I can absolutely understand; constructive criticisms about films/TV shows that one enjoys otherwise. But the full-on hatred? Baffling.
On that note, I love this movie. Sure, some of the Stone personalities are excessively rude, there are elements of the movie that are pretty unbelievable (i.e. Everett falling in love with another woman within two days), etc. But you know what? I couldn't care less. For the holidays, with a film like this, it's a matter of just kicking back, not over-analyzing, and enjoying the show.
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According to you, it only makes 'sense' to come on to IMDB to discuss a movie or show with positive feedback? Your point is as narrow minded as it would be for me to say, "Well, if you love it so much, why are you bothering to come on to IMDB and post about it?"
It's a viewpoint...whether you agree with this or not. Movies evoke emotions, both positive AND negative. Sometimes, these emotions are so strong that we choose to share them. There is no positive...without negative.
I, for one, laud those individuals who can think for themselves...critique something they've just viewed...and then share that with others. Everyone has the same right to share...and should be encouraged to do so.
You seemed to have missed a key point I made in my original post:
Critiquing I can absolutely understand... But the full-on hatred? Baffling.
I think constructive criticisms can be a really engaging conversation. If the OP had been more specific than "waste of time," I may not have agreed with him/her, but I would find the opinion interesting nonetheless.
Taking the time to post something on IMDb like "waste of time" is the equivalent of someone going onto Amazon.com to write a product review as substantive as saying "Not good."
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