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So Many Problems With This Film...


I really love this movie, but I couldn't resist listing at least some of the problems. I know this is a fairy tale and perhaps some of the problems were just things that I missed, but anyway, here's my list:
1. How did Sam eventually find out that her letter from Princeton was fake? How did the real letter stay in the trash can all that time?
2. Why didn't Austin just scroll through the contacts on Sam's phone to see who she hung out with?
3. How was Austin allowed to put up so many posters of Cinderella? I doubt a school would allow that many posters.
4. Why didn't Sam get in trouble for sneaking out? Both stepsisters had seen her in the car with Carter, and it was obvious by the diner employees's comments that they were trying to keep Sam from getting punished.
5. Rhonda's comment on the teens reminding her of why she used to fight in school was totally not needed.
6. Rhonda's comment about Fiona only being appealing in Fiona's head was not needed.
7. How is it that Austin did not immediately notice the differences between the stepsisters's body build and Sam's body build? After all, one twin was way taller and skinnier than Sam.
8. How did Austin not recognize Sam at the party, as they passed each other in the halls and when she talked with him in the diner about wearing a mask?
9. Why did the filmmakers randomly put Carter with the Goth girl at the end? Up to that point, we had not seen any contact between them.
10. Why did Sam think that Austin was saying that she needed a facial wax? At a car wash, it's obvious what it means when someone says a person needs a wax.
11. Why did Sam go into the boy's locker room before the game? Thank goodness the naked guys at least had towels around them when she did.
12. Why was Sam's attic room so nice?
13. Why didn't Sam leave the pep rally early on when it was obvious the girls were making fun of her?
14. Why did Austin hang out with stupid, immature people? He was much smarter and more mature than they were.
15. Why did every diner employee quit working for Fiona when Sam quit?
16. Why did Shelby call out to Austin during the football game? It was obvious they were not together and she was only embarrassing herself further.
17. Why was the entire school against Sam at the pep rally? I could understand SEVERAL people laughing at Sam, but EVERYONE? And why didn't the school principal do anything to stop the abuse?
18. Why did Austin and Sam go to Princeton in Sam's old car instead of Austin's very nice SUV?
19. Why did it take Sam that long to find her father's will?
20. Why was Fiona wearing skates at the diner at the end of the movie, but the stepsisters weren't?

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I'll do my best to try answer these -

1. I did wonder that, maybe Princeton sent a follow up letter or phone call to see why she hadnt got in touch with them. And it is very unlikely that the letter would still be in the garbage, the bin men musnt be very efficient in the valley!
2. Remember he said her phone was password protected and he could only see messages that had been sent
3. This is true, although it's also a school which aooarently openly allows bullying (the horrific pep rally the teachers did nothing) so imagine its pretty lax
4. Fiona couldnt prove shed been out and the girls must have thought they were seeing things, or they probably didnt think Sam was capable of disobeying Fiona (I believe she really was that egotistical)
5. I disagree, this was showing rhondas tough side and showing her support and understanding for Sam
6. Again I disagree, like I say Fiona was egotistical, and Rhonda said it under her breath
7. This is probably the most ridiculous part of the movie, I said in another thread that wearing a mask you may as well have a bag over your head cos Austin couldnt come close to recognising her. I think this may have been an indication of how invisible Sam really is, even to an oblivious Austin
8. see above
9. I think they just wanted a nice ending for Carter and it was closure for both characters. Mainly I think it wanted to show that Carter had the power to rejected Shelby - a shift in popularity
10. I think its either a lame attempt at comedy, or to show that Sam has a complex - she gets so much hassle at home maybe she assumes that everyone she meets is being critical??
11. To shout at Austin obviously, public conforntation is far more interesting then if it was just them too - although Im sure she should have got into a lot of trouble for this!
12. I thought it was small and dingy
13. I thought this, nothing like a bit of emotional self flaggelation ey!
14. I started a thread (that for some reason no longer appears) that Austin wasnt really a nice person, despite how much poetry he waffled, and I included this predicament - if he was so deep why was he friends with popular morons?!
15. I think they wanted to imply how close sam was to all her co-workers, they supported her by following her (although Im sure in this day and age with the recession theyd probably think twice!)
16. think this was to show how he finally chose sam over shelby. Plus, like Fiona, Shelby would probably think that no one would never want her
17. Again, a ridiculous scene, i know they wanted to make it uncomfortable to watch, but it was stupid how they did that
18. Maybe this was to show that, after she got all her inheritance she ahdnt changed and was still down to earth - would imagine austins car was maybe his dads anyway
19. maybe she just never read that book since her dad died
20. the diner was reformed to its original no-skate state, i think Rhonda maybe made fiona wear them anyway as revenge, remember Rhonda hated to have to wear hers.

Hope this helps a little!

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Some of these are plausible questions. But.. wow. You've thought about it too much.. I'd hate to watch a movie with you, no offence.

But yeah. I agree with everything Charlotte_720 said.

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i agree with remus lol. hate to be this girls companion.

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9) the plot development of the relationship with the Goth girl may have been filmed, but ended up on the cutting floor.
10) you can get other body parts waxed.

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I'm joining this conversation five years after the fact, but here goes anyway.

1. I agree with you on this one. This particular loose end got wrapped up in a rush. I would guess that maybe, hoping to win favour and a little mercy, one of the stepsisters or even Fiona herself told Sam that the rejection letter was fake. And the real one was an acceptance letter. But I definitely didn't buy it still being in the trash. It would have made more sense if Fiona had kept the real letter hidden somewhere in the house or something.

2. The phone was locked. One of his friends suggests something along those lines and Austin says that the phone is password protected and he can't unlock it. He can only see the text messages that the phone is receiving.

3. I guess we just have to assume the school has a very lenient policy for that kind of thing ;). But I don't see this as a particularly big problem. I can suspend my disbelief enough to let Austin put up all those posters lol!

4. The stepsisters might have but Fiona didn't. When she looked over at Carter's car, she only saw Carter. She suspected something was up, but when she found Sam in the diner afterwards, she dismissed what the girls claimed to have seen and accepted, for the moment, that Sam didn't sneak out. No proof, no punishment basically. Plus, I also think Fiona was arrogant enough to presume that Sam would never dare defy her. That's why she initially dismisses her daughters when they try to tell her that Sam was in Carter's car.

5 & 6. I disagree. These two moments are about setting up character dynamics. It establishes Rhonda's loyalty and protectiveness over Sam, as well as her dislike of Fiona.

7. I'll give you this one. It's another instance where we're being asked to suspend disbelief so that moment of comedy can play between Austin and the sisters.

8. This was pretty much Sam's point when she told him, "You were looking, but not really seeing". She even asked him, while she was wearing the mask, "how can you not know who I am?" which implies she her self knows her disguise is not that good. But because she didn't run with the cool kids, as many times as Austin saw her, he never bothered to remember or really notice her.

9. Carter needs some sort of pay-off for that moment of bravery when he reveals his identity to Shelby, only to see her true colours when she dismisses him. Instead, Shelby is left chasing after him while he has a new girlfriend and is no longer interested in someone as vapid and shallow as Shelby.

10. I think that this was (a) a weak attempt at humour and (b) character set-up. That moment feeds into Sam's perception of Austin as a stereotypical, shallow jock. Which makes the revelation later on that he's Nomad, that much more jarring for her.

11. To confront Austin. It's also about demonstrating her newly discovered confidence and boldness. In the first half of the movie, Sam would never have marched into a crowded boys locker room to confront Austin in front of all his peers. The fact that she does reinforces her declaration that she no longer cares what other people think of her. After being publically humiliated, having Sam confront Austin in a public arena (like the boys locker room) helps demonstrate that she's taking back her power. That moment wouldn't have had the same resonance if she just quietly took him aside.

12. It was pretty small and cramped. We know Sam is treated badly by her stepmother. I don't think having her sleep on a stained mattress with a thin, tattered sheet was necessary. The adaptation doesn't always need to be so literal.

13. Paralyzed by shock and embarrassment? More likely a convenient plot device to push the story into the final act.

14. I don't see this as a problem. Austin's conflict throughout the film is the fact he's caught between feeling pressured to conform to other people's expectations of who he should be and living up to his own expectations. It's hard to go against the herd and go your own way, so Austin stuck with the immature cool kids. By the end of the film, he's brave enough to be his own person. I also think it's worth mentioning that Austin's friends don't really exist as characters, but rather caricatures of the cliquey mean girls and insensitive, dumb jock stereotypes.

15. To demonstrate their loyalty to Sam.

16. She honestly believed that, after her public humiliation of Sam, she and Austin would get back together. Probably because he made no move to defend Sam and pretty much avoided her after that incident. She calls out because she can't believe he's still choosing Sam, after all that.

17. Basically for dramatic effect. You are meant to be uncomfortable and really feel for Sam in that moment because of her peers' being so cruel to her. If only a few people were laughing and mocking her, it wouldn't be as dramatically powerful. Although, I agree, they could have had one or two teachers at the end of the skit attempt to quiet the students and stop the jeering.

18. Maybe because it's an "uncool" car. So it shows how Austin really is done with pretensions of popularity and being "in". He's now firmly substance over style. So he and Sam take her beat-up car, instead of the trendy SUV.

19. Again, it's a necessary plot device. If Sam finds the will earlier, there's no Cinderella story. Maybe she hadn't read that book since her father died.

20. Poetic justice. When she ran the diner, she always insisted on making the staff wear those ridiculous roller skates. So now, she gets a taste of her own medicine.

I enjoyed this film for the fluffy, light weight, popcorn movie fare it was intended to be. Although, I did take issue with the gross double standards Sam and Austin were held to:

The whole reason Sam is reluctant to reveal her true identity is because she fears he will judge her and won't accept her. And yet, when Austin reveals himself as Nomad, Sam does to him, exactly what she was afraid he'd do to her: she judges Austin, jumps to conclusions about him based on a superficial perception of his "jock" persona, and, initially, she doesn't accept him. I thought to myself, doesn't anyone see a problem with the blatant hypocrisy of that? Not to mention the irony.

That's my two cents worth.

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