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Angelina Jolie miscast

posted 13 years ago by pc-daisy
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Just caught up with this again and was jolted by the mis-casting of Jolie as Margaret 'Clover' Russell, as I saw the character. In my opinion, Jolie is much too exotic looking to be the daughter of WASPS.

[–] jimmsound 13 years ago

Or perhaps just too hot for the role. As if she'd have to seduce men to find a good husband...

[–] Lucy9596 13 years ago

Seduce? It was more than seducing... she practically jumped on his lap.

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[–] jimmsound 13 years ago

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Yeah, kudos to Wilson at least for playing hard to get :)

[–] kodak007 12 years ago

She was sent to him, to make him part of that group of people insuring his cooperation with the plans the movies lays out.

He was being set up more or less, to have no choice but the life he lived.

Changing from the "fun" and sorta outgoing persona on stage, to being a inward and mistrusting analyst.

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[–] PhillipNoir 12 years ago

She played a predatory, overly-sexed, hypocritically conflicted woman. Where's the miscast?

[–] pc-daisy 12 years ago

I know what you mean, but I actually meant her appearance is too exotic to be a WASP, generally speaking. And this was all about Americans and 'others' in part.

[–] PhillipNoir 12 years ago

I agree, though a plastic surgeon gave her a nice WASPish nose somewhere along the line.

[–] korevette 10 years ago

True, but from that scene on, her character morphed into a weak, emotional soul. Her looks deceived that part of her character. I did like the movie with all its complexities.

[–] eyebrowmorroco 12 years ago

She’s woeful in most everything.

[–] pc-daisy 12 years ago

I liked her in Changeling and she had the right 'look' for the period too. I read somewhere that Eastwood primarily cast her for that aspect. I am about to watch TGS again, and could be wrong at this point, but I seem to remember her parents in the film having blue eyes. So if that is right, beside the fact that she doesn't have the right 'look' for the WASP parents, I understand it is biologically impossible for two blue eyed people to produce a brown eyed child.

[–] LetThemEatCake01 10 years ago

She's not brown eyed her eyes are blue green.

[–] chill1211 9 years ago

It is not impossible for blue eyed parents to have a brown eyed child, somewhat rare but not impossible.

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[–] PotassiumMan 12 years ago

I thought Angelina Jolie handled this role quite well and showed her acting versatility. As far as whether or not she could pass for a WASP, please, an argument based on ethnic stereotyping can always be made on some other message board.

[–] pc-daisy 12 years ago

What other message board did you have in mind? Films are about reality, in fact sometimes we laud them for that aspect alone, and IMO appearance is as critical to a characterization as anything else. Which is why, without stating the bleeding obvious, film makers go to great lengths to have the actor's appearance match the part. I have already said she is suited to some roles and IMO this wasn't one of them.

[–] qfal 10 years ago

This has nothing to do with ethnic "stereotyping". The WASPs were English, maybe Scottish and Welsh, too. They would have all been members of an extended family. Jolie didn't look right at all, but I guess they needed a big name for the part. Amy Adams might have been a better fit for the role.

[–] pc-daisy 10 years ago

Sorry for late response, but thanks for bringing some much needed balance to the discussion. I really didn't think she was such a big name at that point? You could well be right. Beautiful looking girl, but too exotic for the part, IMO.Amy Adams would have been a better fit.

[–] wannaberockstar 10 years ago

Wouldn't she be considered a wasp? Her dad is Jon Voight and her mom isn't exotic. Though I guess they could be catholic.