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Can anyone explain to me how Garrett Hedlund wasn't awarded the Best ...


Actor Academy Award for this brilliant piece of work? I'm perplexed.

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The film was poorly distributed and received mediocre reviews, thus it was shut out of the Oscars and many other major awards.

You're welcome.

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I'm not sure I would agree with Best Actor Award but not having read the book I did find the movie a little slow at times but then that was part of it to some extent was to enjoy and appreciate the scenery which I'm guessing is why I see so many low rated reviews...? including I believe only two stars on the movie channels. I found the movie very good overall and rated it an 8 myself and I'm rather old in my early 50's & quite honestly could have done without so many of the sex scenes but that was part of it also...right?
Sorry I went on so long but basically I am agreeing with the acting was very good

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In 1985 Geraldine Page won for The Trip To Bountiful-a film hardly anyone saw and a receiver of only fair notices from critics. Didn't stop her from winning.

IMO Hedlund was robbed.

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In 1985 Geraldine Page won for The Trip To Bountiful-a film hardly anyone saw and a receiver of only fair notices from critics. Didn't stop her from winning.

Let's compare.

The Trip to Bountiful

Domestic box office:
$7,491,903 in 1 theater

Awards:
Academy Award
• Best Actress: Geraldine Page - WIN
• Nominated: Best Adapted Screenplay: Horton Foote

Boston Society of Film Critics Award
• Best Actress: Geraldine Page - WIN

Golden Globe Award
• Nominated: Best Actress—Motion Picture Drama: Geraldine Page

Independent Spirit Award
• Best Female Lead: Geraldine Page - WIN
• Best Screenplay: Horton Foote - WIN
• Nominated: Best Director: Peter Masterson
• Nominated: Best Feature: Sterling Van Wagenen, Horton Foote

Mainichi Film Concours
• Best Foreign Film: Peter Masterson - WIN

National Board of Review, USA
• Nominated: Top Ten Films

Retirement Research Foundation, USA
• Television and Theatrical Film Fiction - WIN

Writers Guild of America Award
• Nominated: Best Adapted Screenplay: Horton Foote

On the Road

Domestic box office:
$720,828 on 107 theaters

Awards:
Cannes
• Nominated: Palme d'Or

Golden Trailer Awards
• Nominated: The Don LaFontaine Award for Best Voice Over

Hollywood Film Festival
• Supporting Actress of the Year: Amy Adams - WIN

National Board of Review, USA
• Top Ten Independent Films - WIN

Sydney Film Festival
• Nominated: Official Competition Award

So to recap:

- Geraldine Page was nominated for 4 Awards and won 3. Garrett Hedlund was nominated for 0.
- The Trip to Bountiful won at the box office while On the Road failed.
- Critics and awards favored The Trip to Bountiful while most dismissed On the Road.
IMO Hedlund was robbed.

Hedlund had no real buzz nor precursor awards to lead to the Oscars. The film went mostly ignored and so were many of its actors.

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First of all I saw all five Best Actor nominees last season and I still think Hedlund should not only have been nominated but also won. That's just my opinion. The reason why I brought up G Page was the trip To Bountiful received negative to mediocre reviews from critics (The National Board of Review) is NOT composed of critics BTW and you say 7.4 million at the box office--that's STILL lousy. And I doubt it only played in ONE theatre.

Anyway Page won as a "career" Oscar win a la Al Pacino for the awful Scent of a Woman. I was merely pointing out that people can win or come close (Ulee's Gold Peter Fonda) in pictures that aren't popular.

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First of all I saw all five Best Actor nominees last season and I still think Hedlund should not only have been nominated but also won.

Why? His character was too shallow and undeveloped to be recognized for the Oscar.
The reason why I brought up G Page was the trip To Bountiful received negative to mediocre reviews from critics

It has 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/trip_to_bountiful/

Not sure where you're getting it received negative or mediocre reviews.
you say 7.4 million at the box office--that's STILL lousy.

That's 10x more profitable than the $720,828 domestic gross On the Road made. Now THAT'S lousy.

Although the budget for The Trip to Bountiful's never been projected, I bet it cost a lot less than $25 million like On the Road.
And I doubt it only played in ONE theatre.

Think again.
Widest Release: 1 theaters

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=triptobountiful.htm

I was merely pointing out that people can win or come close (Ulee's Gold Peter Fonda) in pictures that aren't popular.

I get that there are dark horses, but Ulee's Gold was more well-received than On the Road.

On the Road

44% on Rotten Tomatoes: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/on_the_road/
56 on Metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/movie/on-the-road

Ulee's Gold

94% on Rotten Tomateos: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ulees_gold/
77 on Metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/movie/ulees-gold

Academy Award
• Nominated: Best Actor: Peter Fonda

Golden Globe Award
• Best Actor—Motion Picture Drama: Peter Fonda - WIN

Screen Actors Guild Award
• Nominated: Outstanding Lead Actor: Peter Fonda

ALMA Award
• Nominated: Outstanding Latino Director of a Feature Film: Victor Nunez

Chicago Film Critics Association Award
• Nominated: Best Actor: Peter Fonda

Dallas-Fort Worth Film Critics Association Award
• Best Actor: Peter Fonda - WIN

Deauville Film Festival
• Jury Special Prize: Victor Nunez - WIN (Tied with In the Company of Men)
• Nominated: Grand Special Prize: Victor Nunez

Fantasporto
• AMC Audience Award: Victor Nunez - WIN

Independent Spirit Award
• Nominated: Best Feature: Sam Gowan, Peter Saraf
• Nominated: Best Director: Victor Nunez
• Nominated: Best Male Lead: Peter Fonda
• Nominated: Best Supporting Female: Patricia Richardson
• Nominated: Best Screenplay: Victor Nunez

Mystfest
• Nominated: Best Film: Victor Nunez

National Society of Film Critics Award
• 2nd Place Best Actor: Peter Fonda

New York Film Critics Circle Award
• Best Actor: Peter Fonda - WIN

Online Film Critics Society Award
• Nominated: Best Actor: Peter Fonda

Southeastern Film Critics Association Award
• Best Actor: Peter Fonda - WIN

Young Artist Award
• Best Performance in a Feature Film - Supporting Young Actress: Jessica Biel - WIN
• Nominated: Best Performance in a Feature Film - Supporting Young Actress: Vanessa Zima

The only movies I can think of which garnered Oscar buzz for its lead actor despite the brunt of negative reviews is those that "tug at the heartstrings with powerful messages."

Think Sean Penn in I Am Sam or Ryan O'Neal in Love Story.

On the Road is just one big hedonistic party without much substance. Sorry.

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Uh, I doubt the grammatically incorrect 1 theatres is the truth. I can't believe that in this big country TTTB only played in a single cinema that grossed over 7 million dollars. That makes no sense.

You say shallow, I say brilliant.

The fact that only 12 critics wrote about TTTB shows what a small picture it was.

I think that's the end of this conversation.

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Just curious... what was so "brilliant" about Hedlund's character/performance?

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Dean Moriarty is such a powerful vessel for an actor. the potential is insane! Hedlund no doubt did a reasonably good job. just the same, the written character was so much more. This character.. if played anywhere near to what Kerouac wrote..should easily help an actor get a nomination. Hedlund didn't get one. Get over it. although good..he was not good enough. Period. just cause you get your kittens in a caboodle over some stud muffin actor doesn't mean they are Oscar worthy. Now, in Hedlunds defense..the writing and approach was not adequate to kerouacs story so..


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Dean Moriarty is such a powerful vessel for an actor. the potential is insane! Hedlund no doubt did a reasonably good job. just the same, the written character was so much more. This character.. if played anywhere near to what Kerouac wrote..should easily help an actor get a nomination. Hedlund didn't get one. Get over it. although good..he was not good enough. Period. just cause you get your kittens in a caboodle over some stud muffin actor doesn't mean they are Oscar worthy. Now, in Hedlunds defense..the writing and approach was not adequate to kerouacs story so..

Great post.

I especially agree with everything highlighted.

I read somewhere that Walter Salles was interested in directing the real story with real characters opposed to the semi-autobiographical novel, which explains Hedlund's decent performance but underwhelming portrayal.

P.S. I think you should be replying to the OP instead of me.

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In all fairness..I wanted to read for the role myself and couldn't even get a shot to play my hand. I even wrote a few long shot letters stating my case. Im sure a secretary got a good laugh and used them to rest her coffee on. So, I used to be slightly bitter. ahahaha. Truth is..that quickly faded when I realized I dodged a bit of a bullit. If the approach was different I truly believe I would have missed out. Plus, I got into another film at the time and I am proud of it. That's about all you can ask.

Hedlund is a good actor and I respect that. To be even decent is a challenge in this business.

And to the person who direly wishes Hedlund had won...who cares, you know? I mean, who cares. Talented actors die everyday. A death of obscurity and creative blockage...A "roman wilderness of pain" lol ..A complete blockage.
Also, there are tons of performances each and every year that go completely unnoticed. good performances as well as great ones.. Look at it this way..right now Hedlund is a working actor. That is the prize. You get to see him up there. Such a blessed thing. And, you loved his performance, yes? And that is ALL that matters.

"Silences crossed by Worlds and by Angels" - Arthur Rimbaud

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I didn't lose the role to Hedlund. For that, I would of had to have had the chance to read for the part. Troll? I have every right to be here "trolling" and so do millions of others around the world. Including you. Who isn't trolling here? That's just dumb. Ive been on this board since 2006 dahling. Hedlund wasn't anywhere announced and I was interested in the story. There are so few left worth telling it seems

If I was so bitter, than why do I think Hedlund did a good job. Youre just a spiteful person. And, why? cause you feel like you know someone who you completely don't know. And I don't think quite so highly of him because I can see past his physicality. I know you have clearly fallen for him like a blind roofer.

You are just hateful. That is all there is to it. I have posted and shared my thoughts here. You have posted a bunch of slander. Have you met me? I don't think so. Go on now, go post on Hedlunds board again for the 4,000th time.

To say I envy Hedlunds career is absolutely ridiculous! I think I am better than he is to be perfectly honest. His legacy is quite weak for being involved in the industry for a decade. I don't think anyone will be talking about him 10 more years from now. Not many people are talking about him now.


Good, grief. Im not sucker punching you girls below the belt. Im not spitting on your struggling career. I don't even know what it is. Of course, you have shared next to nothing except total contempt for anyone who doesn't hold your idol in a certain light. Its sickening.. and I would venture to say, Mr. Hedlund would easily be turned off by your erratic behavior. Maybe you should stop "trolling" so much defending a stranger, all the while making yourself look like a ugly person. Because what you are reflecting here is just pathetic, I must say

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The reason for only being played in one theater could be because it was distributed by a side project of Island Records which shut down after a few unsuccessful films. I'm guessing that the movie didn't have the funds for wide distribution.





"If you live in a glass house, don't be chucking stuff about" - Karl Pilkington

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When Hedlund receives his 8th career Oscar nomination and STILL doesn't win, then you can compare him to Geraldine Page. Until then, just stop embarrassing yourself.

By the way, I thought Hedlund was, indeed, excellent--far better than he ever indicated the potential to be. Nomination-worthy: perhaps. But it wasn't a snub.

What do you mean, I have NO signature?

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I'm NOT embarrassing myself but Geraldine embarrasses herself in Pete and Tillie and TTTB. Besides, since when do prior nominations guarantee you a win at Oscar time? Ever hear of Thelma Ritter or Peter O'Toole?

Hedlund was brilliant and should have won--his lack of any prior nominations should have nothing to do with it.

Have a nice, embarrassed free day.

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Hedlund was brilliant and should have won

He should have won? Why? Because you say so?

That's not how the world works.
his lack of any prior nominations should have nothing to do with it.

But his lack of prior nominations had everything to do with it.

Can you think of any recent examples of actors being recognized for an Oscar without ANY previous nominations?

Hedlund was treated like anyone else whose movie and performance barely registered with most critics and audiences. Deal with it.

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That's the problem with the Oscars--all too often they are rewarded for career achievement. But to answer your question


Ben Kingsley
Jennifer Hudson
George Clooney
Marlee Matlin
DD Lewis (for My Left Foot).
Helen Hunt
Roberto Begnini
Diane Wiest
Hillary Swank
Marion Coltiard
Forrest Whittaker
Jamie Foxx
Monique
Halle Berry
Sean Connery
G. Paltrow
Glenda Jackson
Art Carney
Peter Finch
Richard Dreyfuss

Of course it's MY opinion re Garrett Hedlund

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All of them have been recognized prior to the Oscar ceremony:

Ben Kingsley

Before he snagged the Best Actor Oscar, he won the Golden Globe, BAFTA, Evening Standard British Film Award, Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award, London Critics Circle Film Award, Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award, National Board of Review, New York Film Critics Circle Award and received many other nominations for Gandhi.
Jennifer Hudson

Before she snagged her Best Supporting Actress Oscar, she won the Golden Globe, the BAFTA, BET Award, Austin Film Critics Association Breakthrough Artist Award, Black Reel Award, Critics Choice Award, Central Ohio Film Critics Association Award, Florida Film Critics Circle Award, Image Award, National Board of Review, New York Film Critics Circle Award, Palm Springs International Film Festival Breakthrough Performance Award, Phoenix Film Critics Society Award, Satellite Award, Screen Actors Guild Award, Southeastern Film Critics Association Award, Teen Choice Award, Toronto Film Critics Association Award, Washington DC Area Film Critics Association Award and received many other nominations for Dreamgirls.
George Clooney

Before he snagged the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor Oscar, he won the Golden Globe and received other nominations for Syriana.
Marlee Matlin

Before she snagged the Best Actress Oscar, she won Golden Globe for Children of a Lesser God.
DD Lewis (for My Left Foot)

Before the snagged the Best Actor Oscar, he won the BAFTA, Boston Society of Film Critics Award, Evening Standard British Film Award, London Critics Circle Film Award, Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award, Montréal World Film Festival, National Society of Film Critics Award, New York Film Critics Circle Award and received many other nominations for My Left Foot.
Helen Hunt

Before she snagged the Best Actress Oscar, she won the Golden Globe, Screen Actors Guild Award, Florida Film Critics Circle Award, Satellite Award and received other nominations for As Good as It Gets.
Roberto Begnini

Before he snagged the Best Actor Oscar, he won the BAFTA, American Comedy Award, David di Donatello Award, European Film Award, Ft. Lauderdale International Film Festival, Italian National Syndicate of Film Journalists, Las Vegas Film Critics Society Award, Montréal World Film Festival, National Board of Review,
Screen Actors Guild Award, Toronto International Film Festival, Vancouver International Film Festival, Warsaw International Film Festival and received many other nominations for Life is Beautiful
Dianne Wiest

Before she snagged her first Best Supporting Actress Oscar, she won the Boston Society of Film Critics Award, Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award, National Board of Review, National Society of Film Critics Award, New York Film Critics Circle Award and received many other nominations for Hannah and Her Sisters.

I'll continue...

P.S. Garrett Hedlund received NO nominations for On the Road.

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continuing...

Hilary Swank

Before she snagged her first Best Actress Oscar, she won the Golden Globe, Boston Society of Film Critics Award, Critics Choice Award, Chicago Film Critics Association Award, Chicago International Film Festival, Chlotrudis Award, Dallas-Fort Worth Film Critics Association Award, Florida Film Critics Circle Award, Gijón International Film Festival, Independent Spirit Award, Las Vegas Film Critics Society Award, Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award, National Board of Review, New York Film Critics Circle Award, Santa Fe Film Critics Circle Award, Satellite Award, Southeastern Film Critics Association Award, Stockholm Film Festival, Toronto Film Critics Association Award and received many other nominations for Boys Don't Cry.
Marion Cotillard

Before the snagged the Best Actress Oscar, she won the Golden Globe, BAFTA, Boston Society of Film Critics Award, Cabourg Romantic Film Festival, Czech Lions, César Award, Hollywood Film Festival, Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award, London Critics Circle Film Award, Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award, Lumiere Award, NRJ Ciné Award, Palm Springs International Film Festival Breakthrough Performance Award, Sannio FilmFest, Satellite Award, Seattle International Film Festival, Vancouver Film Critics Circle, Étoiles d'Or and received many other nominations for La Vie en Rose.
Forest Whitaker

Before his snagged his Best Actor Oscar, he won the Golden Globe, BAFTA, BET Award, Black Reel Award, Boston Society of Film Critics Award, Critics Choice Award, Chicago Film Critics Association Award, Dallas-Fort Worth Film Critics Association Award, Hollywood Film Festival, Image Award, Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award, Las Vegas Film Critics Society Award, London Critics Circle Film Award, Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award, National Board of Review, National Society of Film Critics Award, New York Film Critics Circle Award, Online Film Critics Society Award, Phoenix Film Critics Society Award, Santa Barbara International Film Festival, Satellite Award, Screen Actors Guild Award, Southeastern Film Critics Association Award, Vancouver Film Critics Circle and received many other nominations for The Last King of Scotland.
Jamie Foxx

Before his snagged his Best Actor Oscar, he won the Golden Globe, BAFTA, BET Award, Black Reel Award, Boston Society of Film Critics Award, Critics Choice Award, Florida Film Critics Circle Award, Hollywood Film Festival Breakthrough Award, Image Award, Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award, Las Vegas Film Critics Society Award, London Critics Circle Film Award, National Board of Review, National Society of Film Critics Award, Phoenix Film Critics Society Award, Satellite Award, Screen Actors Guild Award, Seattle Film Critics Award, Southeastern Film Critics Association Award, Vancouver Film Critics Circle, Washington DC Area Film Critics Association Award and received many other nominations for Ray.
Mo'Nique

Before she snagged the Best Supporting Actress Oscar, she won the Golden Globe, BAFTA, BET Award, Black Reel Award, Boston Society of Film Critics Award, Critics Choice Award, Central Ohio Film Critics Association, Chicago Film Critics Association Award, Chlotrudis Award, Dallas-Fort Worth Film Critics Association Award, Florida Film Critics Circle Award, Image Award, Independent Spirit Award, Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award, Las Vegas Film Critics Society Award, London Critics Circle Film Award, Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award, National Society of Film Critics Award, New York Film Critics Circle Award, Online Film Critics Society Award, Phoenix Film Critics Society Award, San Francisco Film Critics Circle, Satellite Award, Screen Actors Guild Award, Southeastern Film Critics Association Award, Stockholm Film Festival, Sundance Film Festival Special Jury Prize, Washington DC Area Film Critics Association Award and received other nominations for Precious.
Halle Berry

Before she snagged her Best Actress Oscar, she won a BET Award, Bambi Award, Black Reel Award, National Board of Review, Phoenix Film Critics Society Award and received many other nominations for Monster's Ball.
Sean Connery

Before he snagged his Best Supporting Actor Oscar, he won the Golden Globe, Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award, London Critics Circle Film Award and the National Board of Review for The Untouchables.
Gwyneth Paltrow

Before the snagged the Best Actress Oscar, she won the Golden Globe, Screen Actors Guild Award, Empire Award, Florida Film Critics Circle Award, Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award, Las Vegas Film Critics Society Award, San Diego Film Critics Society Award, Satellite Award and received other nominations for Shakespeare in Love
Glenda Jackson

Before she snagged her fist Best Actress Oscar, she won the National Board of Review, National Society of Film Critics Award, New York Film Critics Circle Award and received other nominations for Women in Love.
Art Carney

Before he snagged the Best Actor Oscar, he won the Golden Globe for Harry and Tonto
Peter Finch

Before he posthumously snagged the Best Actor Oscar, he won the Golden Globe and BAFTA for Network.
Richard Dreyfuss

Before he snagged the Best Actor Oscar, he won the Golden Globe, BAFTA, David di Donatello Award, Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award and Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award for The Goodbye Girl.

P.S. I repeat, Garrett Hedlund received NO nominations for On the Road.

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When you said "prior nominations" before winning the Oscar OBVIOUSLY I thought that meant prior Oscar nominations. Anyway you should do 2 things:

1) run your own research department

2) gently remove the stick that up your ass about this guy.

I think this conversation has run its course.

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2) gently remove the stick that up your ass about this guy.

Your OP asks " Can anyone explain to me how Garrett Hedlund wasn't awarded the Best Actor Academy Award for this brilliant piece of work? I'm perplexed."

Now when someone tries to offer logic and facts why Hedlund went ignored you get rude and pissy.

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I was the OP. Anyway, I'm sorry I started the conversation. I saw all 5 nominees last yr and thought Hedlund's performance was superior. I don't NEED any evidence to back up an opinion of a performance.

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Will do.

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Jealous of the huge acclaim Garrett is getting as an actor again? l

Hedlund is not getting "huge acclaim" and I am by no means a Pattinson fan.

Try making sense than making wild assumptions.

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This will be my last response to you, since you obviously have a bug up your ass about the size of Route 66 about Garrett Hedlund.

I was totally engrossed in his performance--he was totally convincing as a hedonistic sleazebag, and he displayed a magnetism rarely seen on the screen these days from a male actor.

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That is *beep* Having Kristen in the movie gave it more publicity than it could have dreamed of and she got a lot of the praise in reviews. I would like to have seen the box office without Kristen fans going. Quieter indie movies like this are always hard to sell especially in this market. Same with Patinson's Cosmopolis. Why didn't the fangirls show up for him?You can keep going on about how Twihards can barely read but you just make yourself look stupid.



RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

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Forget that idiot troll, he is a KStew hater so he's trolling boards of movies she's in



it's a she and she is an Rpattz fan who hates Kristen Stewart and is constantly on her movie boards making up crap. She won't even admit that Kristen got good reviews for OTR. You could put twenty good notices in front of her and she will refuse to accept it and keep banging on about mediocrity and how she was miscast. It's sad to see somebody waste that much time on being negative but it's the way her life worked out, I guess!


RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

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Well I suppose if Al Pacino could be in the SA category for The Godfather so could Garrett. He was a leading actor in my book. I think the film just didn't generate enough interest in its limited run.

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OK I guess we disagree. I would have put Garrett in the Lead Category. His screen time was probably twice as long as Anthony Hopkins' in Silence of the Lambs.

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It has everything to do with screen time. That was the point of creating the category in the first place. This will be my last comment on this matter.

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I simply cannot agree that Dean supports Sal. To me, Sal was more the observer while Dean was the driving force. It might have been Sal's story but it was very much about Dean as well. It's very much a case of them being co-leads.

Anyway, I would argue a big reason he was campaigned supporting was because it would give him a much bigger chance of getting recognized, especially considering how substantial his role really is.

There have been many times studios campaigned actors in the wrong category. Just look at Haille Steinfeld getting a supporting nomination for True Grit. Not only was she in almost every scene, it was her story as well. But yeah, she wouldn't have gotten nodded if she was campaigned lead, so she wasn't campaigned as lead, simple as that.

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I thought of two movies which somewhat DISPROVE what you say. In The Last King of Scotland--the Forrest Whittaker character of Idi Amin was clearly "supporting" the doctor character played by James McAvoy YET Whittaker was awarded the Best Actor Oscar.

In The Devil Wears Prada the Anne Hathaway character had not only MORE screen time than that overrated Meryl Streep--BUT Streep's character was far less important that Hathaway's--the movie was ABOUT Hathaway's struggles--yet that blue ribbon coy attention grabber (and astonishingly overrated) Meryl Streep got the Oscar nomination for Best Actress.

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Oh, how diplomatic of you. McAvoy and Anne H were clearly the leads and the plot revolved around them. But I guess when you're Meryl Strep you can fart on the screen for 90 minutes and get a nomination.

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It is strange that the Academy didn't even honor him with a nomination. His performance is beautifully layered and the character he played was very complex. I can't really picture any other actor of his generation pulling something off like that. He had me in tears in the end. It's one of the greatest performances I've seen in a long time.















Just because something can't be explained,doesn't mean it becomes yours!

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Me too-he reminded me of the young Brando in his audacity.

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You again? Could you get off my nuts. Its kind of freaky. I know you've grown exceptionally fond of singling them out and using them as punching bags with your poor sportsmanship. Its been a thin slice of heaven conversing with you. You "ladies" have been Intelligent and classy conversationalists.. each and every one ..

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