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Anyone else find it creepy...

posted 14 years ago by RockytheBear
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...that a director would even ask this (blow job) from an actress? And I know nobody forced Chloe, that's another topic entirely, but for now I just want to focus on Gallo. I mean, you can't "act" a hard on, which means he was truly aroused. So if he was aroused, why not just make a porno? And before you guys conclude I'm some type of prude, let me assure you my porn collection is probably bigger than yours. All I'm saying is that when things get this graphic, the actors are no longer acting...they're having sex. I just don't see how this is really necessary (in a non porn film.)

"I fulfilled a lot of people's predictions about me. I've become a real scumbag."

Danny Vermin

[–] Waldimore 14 years ago

I agree with you. And I don't feel the need to defend my sexuality.

Films today have gone beyond the pale with depicting sexuality. I just watched The Girl Who Played with Fire, which I enjoyed. The sex scene between the 2 women was overdone and it's explicitness did not move the plot along. It was done merely to titillate, male audience members, in particular.

It's time to legitimize porn movies so that films whose objectives it is to tell a story can now go back to serious filmmaking and acting. Here's a thought, let's go back to movie-house double features and let the second feature be straight-up porn so that it's worth the price of admission for those who live for explicit sex scenes. I mean- why beat around the bush? (no pun intended) I'm just weary of movies with sex scenes that are becoming more and more explicit and have virtually no relation to the story. Enough!

[–] rooprect 14 years ago

I'm just weary of movies with sex scenes that are becoming more and more explicit and have virtually no relation to the story. Enough!

Even Roger Ebert who loathed this movie admitted that the blowjob was integral to the story and not gratuitous at all. I tend to agree. The whole point of the scene was to show his exorcism of the demons that had plagued him. The scene had to demean her, dominate her and gag her both symbolically and literally. Those are the unrequited feelings he had pent up inside for so long, and they are only expunged by his explicit sexual act.

To me, a pointless makeout scene in a romantic comedy is what I'd call unnecessary & gratuitous, but when the scene serves a thematic purpose as it does here, I say the director should go balls out. Er... yeah.

[–] RockytheBear 14 years ago

We're not saying it was gratuitous, we're saying a REAL blow job was unnecessary. The act could have been simulated (like the sex scenes in any movie) and had the same effect. An actual blow job is rather extreme and made the scene a gimmick so that audiences would discuss it for years to come, like we're doing now.

"I fulfilled a lot of people's predictions about me. I've become a real scumbag."

Danny Vermin

[–] twelvepointnine 14 years ago

The main characters were really riding a motor cycle, really drinking coffee, smoking cigarettes and really doing lots of other things. The real blow job was a significant part of the plot, simulating it would have destroyed the grittiness of the film. And in case you missed it, there was a very significant dialogue going on in that scene.

The people who watched The Brown Bunny to get aroused should be less hypocrital and watch real porn instead.

Chaos reigns

[–] RockytheBear 14 years ago

So going off your logic, movie murders should be real, too. Way to miss the point.

"I fulfilled a lot of people's predictions about me. I've become a real scumbag."

Danny Vermin

[–] twelvepointnine 14 years ago

The last time I checked, murder was illegal, consensual sex between two adults wasn't.

Chaos reigns

[–] Wveth 14 years ago

TC, your opinion seems to rest on the assumption that all stories use sex as eroticism and that it serves no other purpose. That's absurd.

But even if I'm not inferring correctly here, your point makes no sense to me. Simulated sex for either eroticism or thematic purpose is fine, but real sex is only good for eroticism?

There's no need to so utterly separate pornography and art.

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Wveth!

[–] noonward 14 years ago

why not just make a porno?! a 'porno' would indicate that it's purpose is to arouse. this movie's purpose was not to arouse, it's an art movie.

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[–] RockytheBear 14 years ago

Gallo sure was aroused.

By the way, EVERY movie is an art movie. Including porn. Art is anything that one creates. I can blow my nose, toss the tissue on the ground and call it art. But there are different TYPES of art...and Gallo crossed over into porno territory.

"I fulfilled a lot of people's predictions about me. I've become a real scumbag."

Danny Vermin

[–] yorktom58 14 years ago

Yes, all films are art, but not all films are Art Films. And The Brown Bunny is in no way pornographic, since the purpose of the sexual material is NOT to titillate (if it were, I'm sure things would have been done quite differently).

P.S.
*Blablablait has a penis in it so it must be porn*

Please vacate the premises, sir, this film is for grown ups.

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[–] marismi 14 years ago

he and sevigny had been lovers before, they were familiar each with the other´s body. possibly they might have developed that scene together? only they know and it doesn´t matter.

following that porno- arguments, even DAS LEBEN JESU (LA VIE DE JÉSUS) about some unemployed boys with their tedium and their racism and the homicide is a porn - really great!

i AM prude (was not when i was young) and i can´t find any pornografic in (? with?) "the brown bunny": it´s an all-in-all slow and calm, sad film with an upsetting disclosure (? solution?). depressing, not stimulating.
i like it, but can´t watch it often cause it makes me sad.

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