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John Ramsey is never upset when he speaks of...

posted 8 years ago by jamiegirl-933-377412
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he's never upset when he speaks of:

- finding her
- carrying her
- laying her down
- realizing that she was deceased
- etc, etc

also, the way he speaks of the Christmas date of death on the tombstone is off , too.

if the brother did it and they're covering (which I'm convinced of now) , wouldn't he be upset? it is just so weird.

even patsy and the way she spoke of jonbenet was weird. " i loved that child." they always seemed so cold.

[–] radrobd 8 years ago

even patsy and the way she spoke of jonbenet was weird. " i loved that child." they always seemed so cold.

I think that is very telling. Patsy can't even say her name, but instead calls her "that child." Either she's very guilty and can't speak JB's name or she didn't really love that child who was just an object to her to win beauty crowns. Maybe Patsy harbored a deep jealousy to JB, whom John favored over her?

[–] IcingOnTheCake 8 years ago

It isn't. She said "that child" when she was emphasizing, talking about her love for her. She often said her name. She pronounced it as a francophile would.

Patsy's cancer was even more of a death sentence suring the 90s than now. It's been said that she used the pageants as a way of bonding with her daughter. She didn't expect to be there when she grew up so they then shared the hair, make-up, etc.
I don't like pageants, especially the ones that use make-up, but they are popular with many. There was even a so-called reality show about it. The pageant system is more popular in the south but some dance classes even allow heavy make-up. There was also a so-called reality show on it too.

There isn't any evidence that Patsy was jealous of her child. You're just guessing, again. You may or may not be correct but theirs nothing to support it.

[–] jjemod 8 years ago

I think to say her child's name would have evoked a choke of emotion and brought her to the edge of an emotional abyss. That would be a very hard place to be in public. I think the Ramseys showed a lot of poise. They didn't give the American public the blubbery show some wanted to see. We don't know how they comported themselves in private.

[–] MycroftHolmes 8 years ago

Ahe is also shaking her head "non" while she says it, a classic tell that she is lying. Burke looks to the right at times, a sign he is making something up. Plus he hasn't ever read the ransom note in 20 years???

What we got here is... failure to communicate!

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[–] IcingOnTheCake 8 years ago

The media has taken enough from him and his family. His grief is private. He only speaks out on occasion because some people have preconceived notions that he or another member of his family are guilty. She used "that child" as an emphasis statement. She often used her name. She pronounced it as a francophile would.

[–] vicki_nb 8 years ago

"That child" is distancing language to create a distance between herself and that child. It's a classic sign of deception.

[–] IcingOnTheCake 8 years ago

That's not necessarily true. Certain words and phrases and mannerism can be clues but it also helps to have references before and after. It's why polygraph examiners ask people for known truths and known lies in the beginning of an examination. It helps to know one's regular patterns.

"That child" was emphasized. Parents sometimes do that. The Ramseys voluntarily spoke in interviews and looked directly into the cameras and at the interviewers. That isn't a classic sign of deception.

She did say her name on several occasions. She pronounced the J as an sh sound.

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[–] Jferg01 8 years ago

Even "I am THE mother" is distancing. Why not say "I am her mother" The way we say things and the words we choice say a lot