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Did you have any idea? **Spoiler**


Did you have any idea that it was all a big scam? Did you see it coming?

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Not at all. Watching again, and I can see where it starts and what they do. Love this movie. Although it bugs me that he doesn't -1,2, 3 when he let's Sam Rockwell in the first time after he agrees to finally take his shoes off.

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NOT AT ALL!!!
My mind was blown away :D

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Have you watched it a second time? When you know the twist, it's like watching a different movie.

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No....I will in the future...

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Yeah I knew it, cause it's a movie cliche in all con/heist movies the ending "twist" is always the double cross. They always kept making the point that Roy had alot of money, and Frank kept saying he needed money bad and he was getting frustrated that Roy wasn't working and becoming soft.

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I saw it coming mid way through the movie. it was too obvious. He never saw or spoke to his ex; The daughter moved in with him almost immediately, with no questions asked; The rule ("make damn sure you aren't the one being conned" or whatever). It was just everything

only I didn't guess his partner was the mastermind--I thought he was getting conned by the doctor. He seemingly came out of nowhere and insinuated himself into the leads life. he was even the one who brought the 'daughter' into the inner circle.

Regardless, it was a decent movie. i was a bit disappointed that the girl was not actually his kid.

Cram it with walnuts, ugly!

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I suspected some sort of twist, but actually never expected the daughter to be *not* be his daughter, and be in on it. I also barely suspected the psychiatrist, either.

I thought MAYBE it was a setup by the ex-wife to get back at him, definitely thought the business partner was shady, as well as the guy they were trying to con.

Riddle wrapped inside an enigma, wrapped inside a taco.

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I knew after about 20 min. I actually thought that there was going to be a double double cross because it was so obvious. That didn't happen and I felt cheated. I was hoping for a keyser soze reveal type ending but no, no payoff at all.

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When I first watched it, i didn't know what the movie was about. It seemed interesting and nicolas cage was in it. I was actually surprised at the end but was happy he ended up with the checkout chick.

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