Lara vs Shark


I liked the movie, but this scene...Jesus christ

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Okay this was reported in our paper yesterday:

SHARK HIT BY SURFER.

A surfer survived an attack by a Great White shark - by punching it on the nose.
The predator bit Brian Anderson 30, at the resort of Seaside, Oregon.
But he managed to turn the tables and scare off the 10ft shark by thumping it's snout.
He suffered lacerations on his calf and ankle but was "conscious, alert and smiling" as he was taken to hospital.
All other surfers fled the water. A witness said: "The shark didn't get seconds."

See not so far fetched after all.

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Yeah, I read an article about that too. Or it may have been another one but I immediately thought, hmm, not so unbelievable. I believe the guy said that he had seen it on the Discovery Channel or something. What was questionable was Lara riding up to the surface on the shark.

*Squeal* I spoke to Chris Barrie on the phone on 25/11/2005: Gazpacho Soup Day!

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There was research about if you just squeeze the nose of the shark it goes into a relaxation mode, like numb state.
But then again the attacking shark be too fast to do it

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The shark did not surface in the film. After she punched it, it turned and started swimming away fast, but Lara caught onto it's fin (I believe it's called the dorsal fin, is that right? The one on top) so that she would pulled along. Once it was a bit closer to the surface, she let go and swam the rest of the way. She did all this because she knew she couldn't possibly make it from the cavern entrance on the seabed to the surface on her own. She didn't have the breath or energy. That was why she cut herself but jumping in the water in the cavern that held the Luna Temple; it was to attract the shark. But perhaps you are right not being able to punch hard enough underwater. Still there's that story now, about that guy (see above) so who knows?

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sharks dont growl or make any noise like laras shark did

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I don't buy that. A guy I know said he got attacked by a bear and he survived because he pushed his hand down the bears mouth, grabbed the tounge and tried to rip it off. That's what you're supposed to do when attacked by a huge bear.

When you've just had half your leg chewed off by a shark, you'll wave around and accidentally hit the shark maybe but not even Superman could wrestle a monster and survive...well...maybe he could but not a surfer.

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If you say that's unbelievable, did you ever think about counting how many seconds she's under water? I did that and i only remembered it lasted at least more than one minute! And by the way I think this story is a fiction.

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The other inconsitency is that sharks can't "smell" blood in the water and come to investigate. They need to swim through the blood to know it is there.

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um...what???

sharks can detect a single drop of blood in the water from much further away than that shark was from Lara.

do you know anything about sharks?


I provide much needed sarcasm

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Are you crazy??? Thats just a saying. Or you're joking?

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Judge for yourselves....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E40rAXTTKlI

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Do you?
The shark still has to have some blood go up its nostril(s), whats special about sharks is the concentration at which they can identify the smell. They could be 100m away from a severed fish and not smell it if the blood hadn't washed their way.
But still its a ridiculous plan, I know if your being attaked by a shark you're supposed to hit its nose because that is sensitive. But first, if the shark was about to charge it would be going too fast for you to hit it. Secondly sharks can't speak like a wookie. And thirdly what a c**p plan anyway, cut yourself, and then hang around for half a minute to get a ten second ride on a shark, it would make more sense just to go for the surface, plus the shark is probably going to come back and smell your bleeding arm when your not expecting it later. And with an ascent that fast your probably going to damage your sinuses anyway.
However, to give some credit if a shark encounters something its unfamiliar with its first bite is going to be exploratory (to see if your edible) if it gets punched in the nose, its probably going to go look for a nice juicy seal to eat instead (or turtle etc etc)

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Dude... I can hold my breath more than one minute. What is so unbelievable about that. The punching the shark thing though... that made me cringe. Try actually punching underwater, you couldn't hurt a thing.

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Well, she is Lara Croft!
It doesn't exactly have to be realistic, it's just a movie.
But I've always known about punching a shark in the nose, its not really uncommon.
But then again, I live in Australia and whenever we go swimming at the beach someone is supposed to be eaten by a shark, so who knows!
I love stereotypical Australia, it's so funny!

"I miss him already"
"He was quite charming"
"Don't move! I've dropped me brain!"

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your 100% correct , what i found hard to take in was that she never has to sign any paper work to transport all her guns around the world ? but thats just me , anyone who looks into movies that are based ON GAMES is a bit sad , she's a video game character she can do anything the directors wont.

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But still, the shark scene came across as especially stupid to me.

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Me too... I actually laughed out loud in the theatre during this scene.

To clear some things up; here are some shark facts:

-Sharks can detect blood in the water at one part per million; that is, one drop of blood per million drops of water. This can be as far as a mile away.

-Sharks have sensitive organs called ampulli of lorenzini on their snouts. These organs detect electromagnetic impulses put off by all living beings. Their purpose is thought to be to allow sharks to continue to pursue their prey in the last few inches of a strike as a shark will close its eyes to protect them when it goes in for the bite. (Ever tried to catch a fish bare-handed? They move pretty darn quick; they wouldn't be in the same place they were when you started to close your hand.) Punching a shark in its snout was an idea that came about because doing so is thought to disrupt the "signal" and confuse the shark enough to buy some time. This may or may not be enough to convince the shark that you are not its normal prey and deter it from further attack.

-The shark depicted in the movie was a tiger shark; these sharks prey mostly on sea turtles but are known to be very exploratory in their diet. They are sometimes called the "dumpsters of the sea" as just about everything from license plates to human feet has been found in their stomachs.

Logically, it is NOT likely the shark would have found Lara before she ran out of air. It is NOT likely that her punch would have had enough force to deter its bite. It is NOT likely that the shark would have turned around and run for the surface; nor is it likely that it would have not noticed the human hanging onto its dorsal fin for a lift; not considered the possibility it was being attacked, and not try to dislodge her.

But, then, logic isn't why we watch movies. It's to get away from logic for a little while. :)

Hope this clears some things up.

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Lara: 1

Shark: 0

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lessa14402, I'm glad someone here knows a thing or two I was almost about to burst after reading 2 pages full mostly of tosh.

It's also worth adding Tiger sharks can reach in the region of 20 mph and they weigh 500 - 1000kg, so I've never tried punching a object that weighs a ton and is moving at 20 mph but I would imagine it would end in broken bones, as I would also expect punching a Tiger shark in a charge would.

Why she cut herself in the first place is a mystery, she got hit by a harpoon her leg was already cut.

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What if two sharks had come?

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Haha, I know the feeling epitome, that's why I posted it :)

Good point on the weight and speed; although, in a fluid environment you might just end up being pushed backward with the force of your own punch meeting the force of the charge of the shark. I don't know, though, having never tried it :)

I don't get the second cut either... "movie logic" suggests that she was trying to make a larger cut with a more serious blood flow?

As to farradin; if there were two sharks, well, she probably would have been even more fictionally screwed than she was in the existing scenario. But one shark was all the writers needed so it's all she got. To answer from a biological perspective; sharks are opportunistic feeders and wouldn't let a little thing like another shark deter them from a meal; unless they were much smaller than the other shark (appetizers, anyone?) or unless that meal was a human. We don't provide them with the nutrients they need; so we don't "taste" good and they usually only take one or two bites before they figure that out. Unfortunately for whomever they're biting; when you're talking a 12-inch bite radius and 1-inch teeth, that's going to be enough to take off a limb. Hence the reason they find human feet and arms in shark's stomachs but very, very, very rarely more than that.



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Reminded me of Merlin Olsen in Blazing Saddles. Very, VERY funny!!

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