i never heard about this on the news or anything, but thats not surprising since i read in one of the threads that it happened in 1999, when i was 12, so can someone tell me the real story or give me a link where i can read about it?
sharehttp://www.angelfire.com/tn/bargay/winchell.html
This link has a ton of information on the real story. I only just saw the movie. All I did was google.com Barry Winchell's name. That link and a ton of others came up.
I am a lesbian with a life partner of 25+ years. I have always believed that everyone should live and let live. However, I must admit that I never fully understood the need to surgically alter one's gender..... until I saw this movie. I was moved to tears to see Calpernia's struggle to become who she really is, and enraged by the murder of her soulmate. This movie was a beautiful and tragic love story that has enlightened me, and for that I am grateful.
I am ashamed that we still live in a time when people are killed and beaten because of who they are or who they may love. This cannot continue to happen. I have been changed by this story, deeply and permanently, and I will never again remain silent, out of embarrassment, fear or shame. Callie was a brave young woman. My heart aches for her and the loss she has suffered. I hope she again finds love and happiness - she so deserves it.
bravo jarah-1
shareI cry so hard from watch this movie. Even thought I only saw the middle to the end,every part move me!
shareGod. It totally annoys me that the second link that comes up when you google Barry Winchell is this
http://www.traditionalvalues.org/urban/six.php
I sure wish I was savey enough to embed viruses on websites like that.
shareWhat I'm still trying to understand is that we as humans do have a nature to be cruel, don't get me wrong not saying that everyone is bad. However weren't we supposed to grow out that. When I was in the military it was more like I don't care as long as were buddies and ur watching my back. My point of view is simple, whatever, your still a person and if u want to be that way and serve ur country so be it. As long as the service member does not do anything or say anything that could be thought of to make him/her homsexual that leave it be.
I understand thier point of view too, but beating the crap out of people in the military world, or the civillian world is just wrong no matter what the issue. That's still like hurting someone because u dont' like shoes. Just because u dont' like that way of life or what thier doing doesn't mean that we as other humans have the right to judge or punish them.
Unforuntley I heard about it before the movie came out, but didn't phase me to the extent as to actaully see it in front of me. The harshness, the cruelty. Pvt. Barry Winchell only commited one act and that was to fall in love. Falling in love is not a terrible and just because he fell in love with someone different than the world thinks he should have does not mean that he should have had his carrer and his life cut short.
I really believe that the release of this movie has not only awakened the eyes of people in the military and what can happen under there noses but what to others at what human nature can do. When I found out that it actaully happend on Ft. Campbell I was shocked and actaully seeing the beating in front of me and how the other Solider Member reacted I was in disbelief.
The movie could have been portrayed more Hollywood like but I'm glad there weren't too many effects of specials because it woudl have taken away from the story.
No matter how many times I watch it I still can't believe that it actually happend. I think I've seen it o 5 or more times on showtime and it still hurts everytime I see it.
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That's what I'm talking about. Although I was raised a certian way I've come to realize it doesn't matter as long as you love that person. I may not agree with that lifestyle for myself but hey if you find someone who loves you that much that go for it.It's so hard to find that kind of love in this world. The kind Callie and Barry had.
shareHere is a little bit of gee whiz knowledge that I just picked up. I was watching the mini series that TNT did on Julius Ceasar a few yrs ago and it came to the end and it gave a mini-biography on some of the characters, and it said that Julius Ceasars wife, Calpurnia, never married again after the death of Julius Ceasar.
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hi, what was the website address?
shareCallie's site is at http://www.calpernia.com. :)
Her story is heartbreaking, but to her credit she made it through that dark time to tell the world who she is and what she lost. Sadly, all too many don't get that opportunity - as the tragic story of Gwen Araujo proves.
Anna x
I KNOW this "happens" and everyday on a smaller scale. From high school to church schools, to the military, to work place environments. It just happens in the form of non-lethal beatings, teasing and taunting. Just because the same people aren't killed, doesn't make it less significant. Most schools have a zero policy now on weapons, but won't make the next logical step to zero tolerance on bullying. It's the simplest thing in the world to implement, but you'll have parents whining that "boys will be boys".....
"No one is useless in the world who lightens the burden of it for anyone else."
I heard a lot about it because I lived in Nashville at the time it happened and used to frequent Connections which is the club where Calpurnia performed at in Nashville. I was a pretty big local story at the time at least throughout the southeast.
shareIt was a national news story....as are most deaths in the military that even remotely connect to sexual orientation. The press waits and feeds off of a story like this....
"No one is useless in the world who lightens the burden of it for anyone else."
heres a good link i just found
http://www.davidclemens.com/gaymilitary/rolstobarry.htm
Having actually been a friend with Calpernia and worked with her during the time she was seeing Barry. The movie does a very good job of showing how truly happy they were together. Barry was a doll and was completely dedicated to his military career. I was actually in the pageant with Calpernia the night Barry was killed, my first thought after finding out he was killed was why wasn't he at the pageant. Of course with it being held on a Sunday night that could very well be why. I'm glad Calpernia has had such suport after this horrible event. I actually had a photo of Calpernia and Barry , the only one known to be in existence but the film was overexposed and unable to be developed.
Chelsey C.
I absolutely loved this movie because of the great acting by Lee Pace in particular and the portrayal of such true, hapy and compassionate love story that all these gender and sexual orientation issues become meaningless and you feel it's a true male and female relationship, and at the end of the movie seeing it was based on a true story just touched me and makes me cry every time I see it.
Something funny that happened to me this week - I ordered the DVD and I received it this Monday, and I watched it four times this week, and I just realised that Monday / Tuesday was the 10th anniversary of Barry's murder. It was such a tragic crime and I'm glad that I at least was able to commemorate this story somehow. Vale Barry Winchell, and my sympathies to Calpernia and Barry's family.
Calpernia and his family
Thanks for picking up on that. I should have made it clearer that I actually meant Winchell's family. It's always worth to proof-read before posting.
Besides, Calpernia is/was estranged from her family and they probably didn't even know Barry...soooo...there is no reason to mention them.
Quite welcome.
I gotcha.
Lol, I always preview my post before posting. Usually several times. I even go back to posts I made years ago and fix the errors I find. Its strange how you can read something over and over again and find nothing wrong with it...until you do. Yes, it is quite worth proof reading.
About to preview now...
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