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Please help me to understand


Hey all,

I don't quiet understand Brother Justin Crowe story, and thus, I can't watch further without understanding.

Can anyone explain me the story behind two kids?... I totally did not get it. Were they his children?...

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I can't watch further without understanding


This is the wrong show for you, then. ;)

How far into the series are you? The story with the kids would be hard to explain to you without ruining a lot of things.

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Oh come on, just please explain it without giving me an attitude.

I am one episode past "that" one, and I do not want to continue without understanding :) I guess I will have to watch again and pay much more attention all thought I thought I was... I just feel lost and only a week after, came here to ask.

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I'm not giving you an attitude. This show can be very confusing and you're going to run into quite a few things that don't make sense right away.

The thing with the kids is a huge spoiler but they are Justin and Iris.

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Okay, thank you for explaining :) I see that I will have to rewatch again the story :)

Question: when you first watched this, you didn't have the same confusion as me?

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It's not something that's revealed until much later. That, and many other things (regarding the identities of many characters). I'd suggest just watching the episodes without worrying too much about figuring out exactly what is going on. I understand it can be frustrating to not know what the hell is going on but trying to figure it out is part of the fun IMO.

I was definitely confused the first time I watched the show. It also ends on a cliffhanger and leaves many loose ends. You can find articles where the show's creator revealed what would have happened and explains a lot of the more confusing plot points.

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I see, thank you so much, this give me some kind of calmness :)!

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The info's actually all there; I think you're supposed to understand by the end of that scene. Spoilered anyway for the sensitive:

Justin says something like "I killed him" or "I snapped a man's neck", revealing that he's actually the little boy in that event. Shortly thereafter (same ep or maybe one or two later?) Iris tells more the same story to Dolan, and pictures of the two creepy Russian kids are seen in the Crowes' house.

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Hi,

There's a pitch document from the writer, released after the cancellation, that gives you an insight into the characters past, and how they got to be where they are.

http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.harvardwood.org/resource/resmgr/hwp-pdfs/carnivale_pitch_document.pdf

Includes spoilers though. I would suggest you watch it all first, then this will answer the many question you WILL have after....well most.

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