Sofie


Can anyone explain exactly what happened to Sofie in the final episode?

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The Omega is an avatar-like creature, which in legend was always assumed to be male, sired by the Usher. Since the Alpha began the line of avatars, we can guess the rule of the Omega.

It turns out that Sofie has always carried the Omega inside her, buried deep and held under control by the mental power of Sofie's mother. Now the Omega is free and has taken over the Sofie we know. It seems that a lot of what Sofie assumed was her mother inside her head was actually the Omega breaking through.

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I refuse to accept that Sofie would of willingly shot Jonesy and resurrected Brother Justin. Sofie was one of my favorites (HUGE crush on Clea), so that's why I refuse to accept she would of done it willingly. I mean, why would you want to help the man who RAPED your mother?! She was brought up in the carnival, and even though she tried to get away and do her own thing, she still had to love those people. The ending of the series and how they f'ed Sofie up, was a huge slap in the face to me because she was awesome and deserved more than that. It had to be her Omega "personality" coming through.

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She fought her true nature and in the end lost. There were signs of her darkness before. It was a brilliant twist having her go over the the dark side. In their world darkness begets light but the end comes when the darkness begets darkness. There was reason why her shifting sides makes sense. The trinity explosion was the end of magic and the beginning of science overcoming magic. A brilliant series I just wish it would have played out until the end. Worst mistake HBO ever made cancelling it!

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The Omega is an avatar-like creature, which in legend was always assumed to be male, sired by the Usher. Since the Alpha began the line of avatars, we can guess the rule of the Omega.
Why isn't she a creature of light (or darkness)?

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We don't really know - it seems that she is both.

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Ahh ok. I watched the series 4 years ago, and am re-watching it now, but my memories are quite fuzzy.


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Enjoy!

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Sofie is an avatar, not an avatar-like creature. She is the last avatar, and a female like the very first avatar. She does have both light and dark in her, like the first avatar.

By the end of the second season, she has become aligned with the Usher, who obviously is dark. According to the 'gospel of knaufias', the third season was going to open with a shot of Brother Justin preaching, and then pan out to show him flanked by Sofie (his wife!) and Iris, then show a little boy whose parentage would be ambiguous at first. Iris would know Sofie was Justin's daughter, and so would Sofie, but Iris would not know Sofie knew.

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Sofie is an avatar, not an avatar-like creature. She is the last avatar, and a female like the very first avatar. She does have both light and dark in her, like the first avatar.

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That's nit-picking, I think. We don't entirely know what the Omega is, but she's not one of the creatures of light and dark, created to prevent mankind from destroying itself before it really got started, and therefore not exactly an avatar. We assume that she has both light and dark, but we don't really know.

To me, the essence of the Omega is shown in the opening sequence of tarot cards, with the three cards - the sun (light), the moon (dark), and Judgement (the Omega). Now what it really means in terms of the future story...who knows?

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In the recent interview Daniel says the following that will give us some closure. I was very happy to read his interview after all these years!

AVC: What were your plans for what would have come in the four unmade seasons?

DK: Like I said, I’m not going to claim I knew the minute detail. Season three is five years later. We find Jonesy—he survived his gunshot wound and is pitching for a professional baseball team. His wife [Libby] is a typical baseball wife back in ’39. The carnival is completely split up; everybody’s gone their separate ways. The only vestige of the carnival as it was is Ben and Samson, and they’re working at another carnival, still on Management’s trail.
Then on the Brother Justin side, we find he’s become this incredibly politically influential radio preacher. And there’s Iris and Sofie, and they’re both in this fight. He’s a shell, almost, and these two women are in a power struggle over who’s controlling Brother Justin. Sofie is Brother Justin’s wife. Of course, she’s his daughter, but he doesn’t know that. She knows that. She could bring him down pretty easily, but she’s afraid of herself now, too.
Then we introduce, in the very first episode, you see this 4-year-old kid come running up and hugging Brother Justin, saying “Daddy.” Is this Brother Justin’s child, or is this Ben’s child, because they both had relations with Sofie? That would kind of tee us off to the second one. That would take us through the war. And then the first half of that would be, “Avengers assemble,” winds of war calling them together, gotta get this group back together again. Ben’s like, “This isn’t just about me. This is about us.” And pulling everybody out of their lives and answering this call, and moving into going to Europe to try to acquire these documents or… I knew they were going to be talismans. What they’re going to need when they’re engaged in this war. Then there’d be a confrontation of some sort at the end of season four.
Then taking us to the end, it’s all about the [atomic] bomb. It’s all about the Manhattan Project and worrying about it, finding out what it is. The Germans have a competing project, and trying to stop it. Trying to stop the bomb from happening, because in Ben’s mind, detonation of the atom bomb is the end of the world. What he doesn’t realize is that it’s just the end of his world. To him, it’s an end to Avatars; it’s an end to everything. But he’s misinterpreted it. He’s interpreted it as the end of the world. He thinks he’s saving the world, but what he learns before the end is that, “I have to let this happen, because if I don’t let this happen, mankind will remain in a state of adolescence.” He learns that’s really why Sofie is called the Omega. She is the only female, the last Avatar. What it’s all leading up to is two Avatars, she and Ben having this child. They actually have to sacrifice this child in the blast. That was my crazy notion.

"Seth Brundle: I've come here to say one magic word to you. Cheeseburger. "

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Here again without the text problems:

AVC: What were your plans for what would have come in the four unmade seasons?

DK: Like I said, I’m not going to claim I knew the minute detail. Season three is five years later. We find Jonesy—he survived his gunshot wound and is pitching for a professional baseball team. His wife [Libby] is a typical baseball wife back in ’39. The carnival is completely split up; everybody’s gone their separate ways. The only vestige of the carnival as it was is Ben and Samson, and they’re working at another carnival, still on Management’s trail.

Then on the Brother Justin side, we find he’s become this incredibly politically influential radio preacher. And there’s Iris and Sofie, and they’re both in this fight. He’s a shell, almost, and these two women are in a power struggle over who’s controlling Brother Justin. Sofie is Brother Justin’s wife. Of course, she’s his daughter, but he doesn’t know that. She knows that. She could bring him down pretty easily, but she’s afraid of herself now, too.

Then we introduce, in the very first episode, you see this 4-year-old kid come running up and hugging Brother Justin, saying “Daddy.” Is this Brother Justin’s child, or is this Ben’s child, because they both had relations with Sofie? That would kind of tee us off to the second one. That would take us through the war. And then the first half of that would be, “Avengers assemble,” winds of war calling them together, gotta get this group back together again. Ben’s like, “This isn’t just about me. This is about us.” And pulling everybody out of their lives and answering this call, and moving into going to Europe to try to acquire these documents or… I knew they were going to be talismans. What they’re going to need when they’re engaged in this war. Then there’d be a confrontation of some sort at the end of season four.

Then taking us to the end, it’s all about the [atomic] bomb. It’s all about the Manhattan Project and worrying about it, finding out what it is. The Germans have a competing project, and trying to stop it. Trying to stop the bomb from happening, because in Ben’s mind, detonation of the atom bomb is the end of the world. What he doesn’t realize is that it’s just the end of his world. To him, it’s an end to Avatars; it’s an end to everything. But he’s misinterpreted it. He’s interpreted it as the end of the world. He thinks he’s saving the world, but what he learns before the end is that, “I have to let this happen, because if I don’t let this happen, mankind will remain in a state of adolescence.” He learns that’s really why Sofie is called the Omega. She is the only female, the last Avatar. What it’s all leading up to is two Avatars, she and Ben having this child. They actually have to sacrifice this child in the blast. That was my crazy notion.

Now I have to kill you because I told you. [Laughs.]


Here is the complete Daniel Knauf interview:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/daniel-knauf-opens-up-about-carnivales- long-weird,92780/1/

http://www.avclub.com/articles/daniel-knauf-tells-us-his-plan-for-the- end-of-carn,92877/

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Seriously? There plan was to have Sofie and Brother Justin married???? Father and daughter??? I mean...Iris knows even if Justin does not.

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