i haven't seen the film but why in hell did Boad raped Davey. what did Davey did so bad did he deserved to get raped. As for Boad does he want to have a reputation for Gay. that doesn't look good for a gangster. People won't take him seriously and people will go after him.
but the main thing was i want to know how, when and why he was raped?
The truth? I don't know. I've only found two reviews so far:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101040621-650742,00.html
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0424/atkinson2.php
I believe in only two things: destiny, and the beauty of the impulsive act.
No disrespect but a stack of the old East End faces were screaming queens, albeit psychotic ones. (For a celluloid depiction, see the Richard Burton vehicle Villain).
This aside; like intersexual rape, very little male on male rape is based upon sex or lust. It's based upon power. For a male to rape another male is to visit upon that person the most demeaning experience you can, basically robbing them of their gender and rendering them your "bitch." It's a direct affront to masculinity.
In the majority of cases, male rape is perpetrated by men not generally homosexual. Go check the stats.
Male rape has even allegedly permeated the US gang scene as a form of punishment or defilement.
"There is no gravity, the world merely sucks."
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is ther any picture of the scene where he was raped
shareis there any picture of the rape tell the site so i can have a look
shareNo disrespect navin but you are clearly some kind of rape fetishist, and this really isn't that sort of film.
"There is no gravity, the world merely sucks."
is just i can't get my head round the fact that the gansta raped him or he could have beaten him to death or something cruel but raped that very demeaning.
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Something to keep in mind, one of the Kray brothers was gay and nobody thought him any less of a mean-assed bastard than his hetero brother. Also men rape other men in prison all the time and don't even begin to consider themselves anything other than straight, even though it's just as much a sexual release as it is a power play. So whether McDowell's character is gay, straight or likes to screw donkeys is less important than the fact that he's willing to do anything he can -- or must or wants to do -- to maintain people's fear of him and thus maintain his position of power. And what strikes fear into just about any heterosexual male? Being on the receiving end of a sexual assault. But this being the US, you think for two seconds we'd ever see Tony Soprano do something like that to a guy, even though it's probably happened far more often than we would like to think?
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Actually both of the Kray twins were queer. They even had sex with each other, the filthy perverts.
shareAt the end Boat tells that "he wanted to show him what he was that means nothing..less than nothing"
He wanted to humiliate him because he was appreciated by everyone.. and Boat was kind of jealous of him
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Just rent the bloody movie. But i will say, even though it is a disgusting and horrific thing to see, if ur lookin for something very graphic, its not. The scene lasts like 5 seconds. At least in the version i saw.
shareIf you saw the film Malcolm McDowell told Clive Owen why he raped him - that he was sick of his ripping off everybody and playing as if the worldwere his oyster.
shareThe Question as to why Davey was raped is one of the few questions answered in the film.
I think it is important to make it clear that Davey did not know Malcolm McDowell. Malcolm had observed him. Despised him. Probably because Davey was from the poorer classes mixing with the rich/posh people. Malcolm McDowell's character does not seem to be a gangster. Rather an affluent man with power and influence and clearly someone who had people who followed his orders blindly.
However, he is not part of the dark underworld. They go out of their way to show that he has a double life. One a married man, a member of the establishment, but underneath, he obviously has insecurities(like the rape expert said), fears, and a desparate need to have some control over the world around him. I'm sure, Davey just was a kid he saw at a party, and he became fixated on him, and all his hate manifested. Pretty sick. But, to me, Malcolm McDowell clearly says, "he wanted to show the boy what he really was..", fortuanately, we get to see Clive/Will show Malcolm what he really is...
This sounds like a very interesting movie. We don't hear too much about male/male rape. I plan to get this.
shareGenerally, rape is a power thing. It does not always involve sexual attraction. There is also a humiliation factor that comes into the picture.
shareIn the movie it is stated that Boad raped Davy to knock him down a few pegs.
And if you're badass enough, people aren't going to take who you're screwing into consideration.
It is certainly and interesting observation on the way men have a power trip over each other.
For once we see the act of rape for what it really is and act of severe degradation by one human being over another.
It's the cruelest thing Boad can think of doing short of killing the bloke.
It's a pretty common form of punishment in prisons and so it's not incredible that a gangster character would do this.
Look at the way top mean men often treat their henchmen like pussies. It's a power trip, but one that we don't usually get to see as a topic in a film.
Davey pisses Boad off and his way of teaching him a lesson is to humiliate him as bad as he can.
It's a stark film, but I had no problem believing the plot.
People who have reached certain levels in their life have an altered state of reality to the general.
Please permit me to disagree with one of your statements, Aileenew.
Male on male rape is crueler than murder. A murder victim is dead, and feels no pain.
Or humiliation.
"Tis better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."
Errr, I'd rather be raped than murdered. If I'm raped, I have a chance to rebuild myself one way or the other, physically and psychologically, despite the pain and the shame. Being killed removes any pain but also everything you are, or could have been... Rape still gives you, in a very twisted way, a mean to go on...
Old topic, I know, but you couldn't be more wrong...
Talk to a rape victim, especially a male one, they're usually destroyed for life. The older they are the harder it is to recover because it literally STRIPS your sexual identiy from you no matter what your orientation is. Added to this, the shame never leaves. Again, ask a rape victim and you'll find out.
I'd rather be dead than be raped...I have no problem of dying with dignity or honor, and most men would probably prefer dying on a battlefield or trying to save someone they loved rather than be raped and have to life with the shame.
Why is only male-on-male rape crueler than murder? That's ignorant anyway, rape survivors can get over their psychical and emotional pain and enjoy their lives. Rape doesn't have to ruin people.
shareapparently 'Rapists who rape men are heterosexual in 98% of the cases'
for other facts: http://www.rapecrisiscenter.com/Male%20Rape%20Info%20Sheet.html