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Angels In America is by far the WORST television series of 2003!


Of course, some people are going to strongly dislike my review of this overrated miniseries, but so be it.

Angels In America, written by Tony Kusher, is by far the worst television miniseries of 2003.

The reason, first of all, the acting is atrocious, despite all of the "emmys" it won.

Secondly, Mr. Kushner, uses this miniseries, to blast Christians and conservatives alike, anyone who disagrees with his prisoner-takes-all, extremist approach to the birth of AIDS.

The AIDS virus actually started in the mid 1970's but didn't catch on until years later.

This miniseries blames the American government for the spread of this disease, and anyone who dares disagree with it's point of view is viewed as a close minded bigot.

Today, there are over ten million people around the world currently affected with the HIV virus, however, is that the fault of the America government?!

No, it's not! I'm sorry, but the only close minded person is playwright, Tony Kushner, whose support of communism in the 1990s got him blacklisted from many college campuses.

The AIDS virus claimed more lives during the Bill Clinton administration than any other time in it's history. He also signed the highly controversial Defense of Marriage Act of 1996.

However, Mr. Kushner often claims Clinton as a champion of gay rights.

That's why I view Tony Kushner as a hypocrite.

That is the reason why this miniseries is so awful and close minded.

I'm sorry if some people disagree with my opinion, but I'm entitled to it!

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Why don't you write a play, you can put in it whatever you want, that's what makes this such a great country. You can call it "Monkey-Man George W. Bush's Bloodthirsty Territorialism Of The World" and maybe they'll make a miniseries out of it. And BTW, calling someone a "communist" hasn't had the same effect that it did thirty years ago, so think up some new invectives, 70s-man. I do tend to agree that Kushner goes a little overboard with his views, for example no mention is made of how the Rosenbergs betrayed the entire country and carelessly endangered millions of Americans because of their greed. Maybe they didn't deserve to die, but they weren't so squeaky-clean either.

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I disagree. Angels in America is not the worst of 2003, it's the worst show I have ever seen. Period. I don't give a rat's ass about the views, it was just such a bad job on every angle I wanted to cry for Pacino being there. This show looked like a high school play that wandered into Hollywood and accidentally got made into a show. Now that I think about it, that sounds like a better premise for a show than Angels in America. This show didn't make me feel anything but boredom. The AIDS scene in Team America: World Police was more touching on several levels.

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"I disagree. Angels in America is not the worst of 2003, it's the worst show I have ever seen. Period. I don't give a rat's ass about the views, it was just such a bad job on every angle I wanted to cry for Pacino being there. This show looked like a high school play that wandered into Hollywood and accidentally got made into a show. Now that I think about it, that sounds like a better premise for a show than Angels in America. This show didn't make me feel anything but boredom. The AIDS scene in Team America: World Police was more touching on several levels."

I sincerely hope you're joking.

(Formerly known as DarkSphynx)

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Pacino's Roy Cohn was perfect. The actors in this movie, their speeches were so moving, I don't understand why you disliked it so, but kept watching except maybe you too were mesmerized, or it jumped from one story to another too much for you to grasp.

AIDS was just the premise, the REAL story was how it affected so many lives and transformed them whether they were "infected" or not. The transformations were incredible, none of them, or any of us have been the same. Isn't that true too - how all our lives touch whether we realize it or not? I thought it was one of the best movies I ever saw and I would buy it on DVD tomorrow.

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I agree with you and I consider myself a liberal. The way that many people have responded to your post is atrocitious. Nothing that you say is bigoted. However, I do not believe that the acting was terrible. I thought most of the acting was amazing (especially Meryl Streep) and I did like the series overall.

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Actually I thought ANGELS IN AMERICA did a great job at examining the aids world and the gay community in the 80s, and i say that as a conservative AND as a Christian.

yeah, i'm a conservative and a Christian. i partly agree that sometimes its easy to slam conservatives cause they dont want change and its easy to slam Christians because often times they come across as judgmental. but i dont like being close-minded, and i dont consider myself close-minded. Truthfully, ANGELS IN AMERICA really opened my eyes and challenged what I've been brought up to believe regarding all the different issues. It really moved me and i love the script. i mean, there were parts of the movie that made me very angry and wanting to throw my remote, but isnt that how we can tell that movies are powerful...if they make us think? I believe so.

Some parts of the movie i thought were a bit explicit, but then again, I'm kind of sensitive. I know, I admit it.

and while i'm not a fan of tony kushner's politics (why dont you take a wild GUESS at my what party i support...:)) I think it's fair to give kushner credit where its due---he made an EXCELLENT play, that became an EXCELLENT movie. so yeah, i am a Christian, but i'm also learning to be tolerant and fair to every side, even if its not always popular. but back to the movie, i thought it was an excellent piece!

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that was a really inspiring response. made me happy. thank you. :)

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I cannot possibly understand how anyone could fail to be deeply moved by Angels in America. It's simply the greatest television miniseries of the past several years. It is powerful, beautiful, intelligent and inspiring, it is amazingly directed by Mike Nichols and it features a whole feast of wonderful performances by some of the greatest actors in the world. It will always be one of my favourite pieces of television.

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Well, I think most people already told you what I wanted to say, but also this.
You said that most Aids effected people died during Bill Clinton's presidentie, but doesn't that mean they had to get sick before that? You don't die right away you know!!! It can take years and allthough I don't want to blame the politicians for the virus, I do blame them for the lack of awareness, education, medicine, money and support they have given the American community, and labeling it as a 'gay- and junkydisease'. I also think they are responsable for not letting the public know how dangerous this disease really was and I do think this has cost a lot of lives, time and money, the two things politicians never have if it's not profitibale in some way (like with elections for example).

About the serie itself, I found it disappointing, a bit boring even.
I was just thinking, in your country I would probebly be a democrate or a liberal, I don't know, but I do know that I'm pro- almost everything, from the right to choose to married gaycouples adopting children, but I also am a bit of a religious person, I just don't have a paticular astablished religion (there are always things i don't agree with, so far) and I don't have to read a bible to tell me what's good and what's evil, etc.
I just hope that inspite of your feelings about this miniserie, you are not a bigot.

By the way, who gives a rats ass about the fact that Tony Kushner supported a communist party. What time do you live in. The days of the cold war are long over and that Mccarthynonsense has cost enough lives of some very good people. Shame on you to even mention that nonsense!!

I'm glad I'm from Holland, allthough it's getting more and more tainted lately......


"If only the good people go to Heaven, it must be a boring place"

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I love this series. Every aspect of it. Luckily, every person is entitled to their views - otherwise we wouldn't have wonderfully acted, scripted and directed movies like this..

- Y'know who we got here? *beep* Charlie Bronson!!

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just wondering, how's Holland getting tainted?

It wouldn't have to do with a place called Dish City (I think that's what it's called) wounldn't it?

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I meant that it's getting worse here too. The politicians especially. They all kiss the americans ass lately, especially our Prime Minister, Harry potter himselve. We have more executionstyle murders lately, then all the years before, children are getting snatched for money or lust but the worst "trent" seems to be gangrape by young kids, from 8 to 16 years old, they all skip school, most of them are from other etnic background, wich explanes their lack of knowledge about what's excaptable in this society, some of these parents don't even speak our language. And they don't rape adult women ofcause, no, they rape young girls, sometimes no older then 6 years old, who can't fight back. One parent even suggested even that obe of these gangrapes wasn't one at all, the girl gave her consent. How ignorant can a parent be, but what i found most appoling (?) was the fact that they gave that woman airtime, just a day after the incident. How can this be? is this the prize we pay for "freedom of speech"? And ofcause she couldn't speak dutch, in a dark corner, so you couldn't see her face, qoute: "my son is only 8 years old, he never would do such a thing" and ofcause was the girl asking for it. Well if that was the case, why did she hide her face in front of that camera.

Ofcause there are still a lot of good people in Holland, but sometimes i get so disillusioned. Firts they kill a politician, then a filmdirctor and a lot of lawyers, criminals and ofcause, don't forget the fathers who kill their own wife and children. At least they kill themselves as well, saves us the trouble of judging him. Not that I could ever judge such a thing, how do you rationalise such a thing. We don't have the deathpenalty, thank God (most of the times) and jail would be too good for such a person. These kind of things will keep happening, but I never thought it would happen so close to home.......

"If only the good people go to Heaven, it must be a boring place"

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You really missed the whole point of this play.

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Possibly the most moronic post I've ever read on IMDb and that's really saying something.

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That has nothing to do with the artistic merits of the movie that you disagree with the subject matter.

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