The Mormon inclusion



Did anybody else find this a bit out of the mainstream at the time, and prophetic for years later. I don't know of many other plays or films set in the 80s or produced in the 90s where Mormonism played such a visible role in the characters and plot line. I guess Tony Kushner must have had some experiences with Mormons, but wouldn't the mainstream just have cast Joe and Harper as being from the Midwest or South?

The specificity of having them be Mormon and how Mormons "don't believe in gay people" was incredibly prophetic if someone saw the film, as I did, for the first time during Barrack Obama's presidency because Mormon Mitt Romney ran against him both times, being the GOP nominee the 2nd time. When President Obama did indeed defeat Elder Romney in 2012, a part of me couldn't help but remember 'Angels in America' and how America would not, in fact, have to endure the idiocracy of Mormonism depicted herein.

At least there will be plenty implied.

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If Mitt Romney were to be elected President two years ago, he would not have pushed the entire country to become Mormons. He would focus on restoring the greatness of America by giving the power back to the Americans and not too much of it to the government. He would also cooperate with world leaders to resolve issues in the world, like the dangers with Iran, Russia, ISIS, to name a few. Seeing how Obama wouldn't do anything right, Romney should have been elected President instead.


Sometimes I just wish that some people would stop judging others on their religion and instead, start judging others on who they are as human beings. Mormons hate homosexuality itself, but they don't have anything against homosexuals. You know what I mean?

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He would also cooperate with world leaders to resolve issues in the world, like the dangers with Iran, Russia, ISIS, to name a few.
Dream on.



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How do you not hate the "homosexual" when you hate the immutable characteristic of their sexuality. The fact that you refer to people as "homosexuals" is telling of your ignorance and bigotry.

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Tony Kushner once said in an interview that the Mormon part of the play's plotline grew out of some young Mormon missionaries he used to see near his place in Brooklyn:

And how did Mormonism enter into it?
There were these Mormon missionaries that I used to see at my subway stop, in Carroll Gardens, around 1983. One of them was, I thought, kind of hot. They were always there in the morning, in front of a bunch of people who could have cared less about the Book of Mormon. And I was kind of touched by that.
http://nymag.com/anniversary/40th/culture/45774/


There was also this interesting article in the LA Times during the play's first run in 1992:
STAGE WATCH
Mormons in 'America': A Believer's View
Los Angeles Times | November 29, 1992 | DON SHIRLEY

Never have Mormon characters been more prominent on a mainstream American stage than they are right now at the Mark Taper Forum in Tony Kushner's acclaimed epic "Angels in America."

Three of the principal characters are Mormons, several phrases right out of Mormon doctrine are uttered, and one memorable scene takes place at the Mormon Visitors' Center in New York.

Kushner, however, is not a Mormon. Nor is anyone else associated with the production, as far as a theater spokesman knew. So how does a real Mormon feel about the fictional ones in "Angels"?

"They're people on the eccentric fringe who are being used to represent the center," said Norm Barlow, who saw "Angels" in order to write a report for the church's Southern California Public Affairs Council.

"All of the Mormon characters are dysfunctional," he added. The two main Mormons in the play are so unhappily married that she's addicted to Valium and he leaves her for a man.

Not that Barlow, who directs the church institute adjacent to Cal State Northridge, denies such Mormons exist; he has counseled some of them, he said. But "they're not representative of mainstream Mormons."

He acknowledged that the play's third main Mormon, the mother of the gay husband, becomes more sympathetic as the play progresses, just as her son becomes less so. And she gets to rebuke one of the other characters for stereotyping her without knowing her--Kushner's "effort to be fair," noted Barlow. "But a 15-second scene isn't much in a seven-hour play."

Barlow fears that "Angels" might "foster an atmosphere where seeds of mutual distrust grow"--and that this could lead to some form of Mormon-bashing. Still, "I don't think (Kushner) was endeavoring to attack the church. He was endeavoring to use the church as a sort of foil to get out his real message."

Kushner might not disagree with that. In a separate conversation, he identified Mormonism as only one of several crumbling "belief systems" in his play and said that all such systems can more or less "stand in for one another."

Gay Mormons have written to Kushner, he said, praising his play as a vindication of their own anger at the church's strictures regarding homosexuality. But "it was not my intention to trash the theology." He sees links between Mormon doctrine and his own Judaism.

He noted that Mormons "aren't very specific about hell and damnation" and he's "attracted to any religion that doesn't operate on a carrot-and-stick principle. They have a wonderfully fluid sense of the afterlife." Furthermore, he views Mormon history as "one of the great American stories."

Kushner was introduced to Mormons via a gifted young student he taught in summer school in Louisiana a dozen years ago. He met the girl's family, and she gave him a copy of the Book of Mormon as a going-away gift.

Since then, he hasn't known many Mormons, but he has done his homework, and Barlow acknowledged it, citing Mormon phrases in the script that most non-Mormons wouldn't have heard. Kushner said he initially believed he had thought up some of those phrases, only to realize later that he had picked them up in his research.

Not everything in "Angels" reflects that research, though. Take the angels themselves. "We don't believe that those angels who are messengers from God are female," Barlow said, "or that they have wings" (or, it goes without saying, that one of them might make lesbian overtures to a Mormon mom). Judging from "Angels," Kushner believes otherwise.

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-11-29/entertainment/ca-2519_1_mor mon-doctrine

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Thanks Thomasina. You answered my question and even sourced it! :)

At least there will be plenty implied.

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