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UFO, mutants os indian spirit....

posted 21 years ago by andretfernandes
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Ok., I was thinking about what could it be, and I concluded that none of the three entities mentioned above could be the "monster".

1° INDIAN SPIRIT:
a spirit doesn't walk like a heavy mammoth (the scene in the shaft).
Also, in the beginning of the movie, we see someone made by flesh taking the camera on the floor.
We see someone (a flesh body) driving the bus (or truck?, I don't remember) when the family try to leave Weaver.
Why would a spirit worship a neutron bomb?
Anyway, I don't think anybody belives that the monsters were spirits...

2°MUTANTS
How could a mutant produce that sandstorm? With their mind?
How could a mutant prevent people from leaving the town?
How could a mutant put that airplane down?

3°ALIENS
If an alien is able to reach our planet, it means that they have a tecnology infinitely superior than ours. They surely knows the neutral bomb and all its propeties.
Why would they worship the bomb, like a primitive people?
Worshipping is also something primitive. I cannot imagine a super advanced population worshipping simple natural phenomenons, like the cavemen and ancient peoples did in the past (worship the thunder, the sun etc.)
Also, do we have any clue about aliens, besides the speech of the druk man?

May be it could be a mutualism the ancient indian spirits do the sandstrom to protect their holy land, and the mutants live there in harmony and in peace with aliens who scaped from area 51.

pelase give your opinion!

[–] miguedroimdb 20 years ago

i think you people need to be introduced to the concept of "surreal movie"

[–] andretfernandes 20 years ago

no comments? what do you agree and disgree in my statements?

[–] miguedroimdb 20 years ago

i pareciate your effort in explaining your point of view

but like i said, in my view this is a surreal film...it's all of those things..and none of it

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[–] miguedroimdb 20 years ago

ouch..someone has not been having sex for a while

a definition of a surreal FILM....duh...i hope now you got it...

[–] SkinnerBank12 19 years ago

You know the novel THE TOMMYKNOCKERS by Stephen King, adapted for the screen in 1993? Well, that novel/miniseries was inspired by a very old legend about little creatures who lurk in mines called The Tommyknockers. According to this legend, the creatures were often good but the majority of them were evil. The evil creatures tended to scare off miners and sometimes even kill them. Some people have said that this was because the Tommyknockers didn't like people coming in and digging up their home, which would be the mine.

Personally, I think this would be a very suitable explanation for the end. Creatures which have generally remained unseen and obscure as to what exactly they are, are pretty frightening. And about all the complaints from users on IMDB about how the cars got where they got, and how people vanished into thin air, this just goes along with the fact that these creatures aren't really known too much and that their full power remains a mystery as well.

Any thoughts?

[–] miguedroimdb 19 years ago

good idea, speacially coz i love The Master's novels

[–] torrentfreak1974 19 years ago

I believe that it's mutant indians who arrive by UFO

[–] przgzr 18 years ago

I like your post: there is no reason to explain everything when it is so strange, so different from common human experience. (However, raven is nothing surreal, and it is here just because of director's will, so it should have some meaning, a message - and that's bothering me, because I can't find any.)

And, being so strange, this creatures can be something not included in opening post - e.g. a life form we simply didn't discover yet. There are new specieses found in sea every year, recently several new plants and animals have been found in Indonesian forests, so it can be imaginable that we still haven't met a life form that would through evolution be adapted for underground life.

[–] SkinnerBank12 18 years ago

Very true. Wow, thanks for your reply. It's been a long time since I visited this post of mine, hehe. =) I agree. I like the idea that maybe what's in the town is just something we haven't encountered before.

"Words of wisdom, Lloyd. Words - of - wisdom."
-- Jack Nicholson as Jack Torrance in THE SHINING

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[–] Hopper10 15 years ago

The Tommyknockers had nothing to do with little creatures in mines it was about the effect a dug up spaceship has on a small town

Fear Can Hold You Prisoner, Hope Can Set You Free

[–] SkinnerBank12 15 years ago

The Tommyknockers novel had nothing to do with creatures in mines.
The legend that the novel is based on did.

"Words of wisdom, Lloyd. Words - of - wisdom."
-- Jack Nicholson as Jack Torrance in THE SHINING

[–] Samantha1977 18 years ago

I've just finished watching this for the first time and immediately came online to see if I could find out what the heck the the ending meant.

the explanation to what "it" is seems to be a mish-mash of all 3 of the OP's title.

At first we're led to believe its something living and breathing stalking them, the "person" who took the girls jumper and went through there stuff while they were asleep, this thing breathes and you can hear footsteps so its a solid form of some sort. Also when the wife was in the mine there was something coming after her but didnt sound human from the way it was breathing, running etc.

Then it goes a bit supernatural with the sandstorm/fog cloud, when the hubby found the cars you can see he's being watched by the thing and you can hear it breathing and its footsteps but when he gets into the car the fog starts chasing him!?!

Basically if they had left out the supernatural bits and not bothered with the last 5 mins ( i think it should of ended with the car crash ) then the mutants would be the logical explanation.

THeres just too many plot holes for the ending to be any of the above which is a shame because I really enjoyed 95% of the movie, I found it much more scary than any slasher movie. Its good to see a horror film without blood, sex, drugs, stupid teens etc. . .

Such a bloody frustrating ending though, so unsatisfying :(

[–] BladePuppet 18 years ago

I actually agree. I'm all for the surrealism of a surreal, horror movie, but this movie seemed at the end like they just couldn't come up with what EXACTLY was going on, so they threw a bunch of random clues together and said, "Let's let the audience think it's whatever they want." Bloody inscrutable bollocks.

I know Kung Fu.