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Why did they think saving Isabella would save them? Doesn't make sense

posted 13 years ago by PavilionHP
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Simply because Candyman tells them "Only new life can defeat death", they all become convinced that letting Isabella have her baby will save all of them (why???) and according to one of them, Death will be forced to give them all a clean slate. This makes no sense. They're literally just pulling it out of thin air.

I understand that they thought Isabella shouldn't have been alive to give birth, but that doesn't mean that death would give ALL of them a clean slate. At least in part 5, their logic makes a bit more sense of if they kill a person, you can take that person's remaining time, and they're taking your place, balancing things out, but even that's just guessing. However, it does make more sense than this one where they're just like, "Hmmm....hey, if the baby is born, we'll be okay! We're basing this off of absolutely nothing!!!"

[–] jfru20 13 years ago

Well in the original ending for Final Destination Clear got knocked up by Alex and had a baby that wouldn't exist, creating new life, therefore giving Clear and Carter a clean slate.

[–] PavilionHP 13 years ago

But what I'm saying is....WHY would it give them a clean slate? Carter had nothing to do with the baby being born. It's not like he's the father.

[–] jfru20 13 years ago

I think because something that wasn't suppose to exist (baby) created new life and somehow stopping the design saving Carter and Clear.

I don't think it makes that much sense either way.

[–] hels-dunleavy 13 years ago

You could say they are exploiting the whole 'miracle of life' attitude people have towards giving birth to tiny little parasites. It's suggesting that if death keeps trying to kill the survivors when it succeeds that counts as everything is right with the world - someone who should be dead is dead. But no matter whether death decides to add the baby to the list of those who should be dead, it's never going to scrub out the fact that 'the miracle of life' took place, that a body with a soul that never should have reached the point where it breathed fresh air existed in the world. Hence in a round about way, 'death' won't be able to view killing the survivors later than planned as just being late for an appointment. If something entirely exists that never should like a new baby body, if you can't erase the days it was alive and people intereacted with it even if 'death' killed it a day, two days, 10 years later, it makes trying to keep order of life and death a bit more irrelevant.

However of course they chicken out on the real fun of having the pregnancy actually matter in the film. I would have preferred if the mother was supposed to die, she ends up having the baby but they're still all going to die at some point, in some funny way. I guess most people would find that offensive.

[–] CatrionaM 9 years ago

They're not parasites.

[–] Vibradiant 13 years ago

Candyman was the guy who originally informed them about what Death's design entailed, so when he spouted a possible loophole, it followed the internal (paper-thin) logic for them to take heed.

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[–] Movie_Buff_Brad 13 years ago

Death has a big, grand plan for everyone and everything. If a person is born that was never meant to be born, Death would basically have to reboot it's whole plan and start over. Think of it like this: if I was writing a script and then was forced to add in a new character, I would basically have to rewrite the whole script to fit them in. Even the other characters in the script's fates would change because now there is this new character interacting with them. With this changed design, this would write off the old one so now Kim and the others would no longer have been meant to die on the highway. They would have new fates.

http://www.the-editing-room.com/winters-bone.html

[–] flipper33 12 years ago

so if the baby was born that would save them by creating new life thats rubbish, wasn`t she pregnant at the time she was suppose to die, wouldn`t the baby die with the mother or die next in the line, the baby isn`t new life after all it`s alive inside her isn`t it, what difference does being born make, and if new life can save someone then all the men who survive deaths 1st attempt are screwed ain`t they.

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[–] mjn-seifer 10 years ago

Death has a big, grand plan for everyone and everything. If a person is born that was never meant to be born, Death would basically have to reboot it's whole plan and start over. Think of it like this: if I was writing a script and then was forced to add in a new character, I would basically have to rewrite the whole script to fit them in. Even the other characters in the script's fates would change because now there is this new character interacting with them.

How did I miss this? That is an excellent way to put it! They should use this in the movies or something.

In fact, I'm disappointed I didn't come up with this, because I'd like to use it if the opportunity presents itself.

[–] Movie_Buff_Brad 10 years ago

Thanks. You're too kind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2BKWx_0qK0

[–] herbstzeitlose 10 years ago

I like that. 

[–] ShizaMinelli 12 years ago

Candyman tells them "only new life can defeat death"
They thought a lady would die who was carrying a baby, aka a "new life"
If the lady died, the baby wouldn't be born.
If the lady lives, she will birth a "new life", coincidentally being the exact thing that the coroner told them can defeat death.

I'm not really seeing how their thought process was illogical, like, at all. It actually seems like the conclusion any reasonably intelligent person would reach...

When you're 17 a cow can seem dangerous and forbidden...am I alone here?

[–] alanramirez1 10 years ago

They just thought Isabella died on the premonition too, which wasn't true.

[–] trelaina 9 years ago

Cracking up at everyone just calling him Candyman 😂

[–] LemonTastic 9 years ago

They were probably desperate. I always assumed when he meant new life defeats death, he meant just Isabella (I'm not 100% sure why it clear the slate).

I always liked Tony Todd's character in these films, he always gave information but was also vague so it wouldn't surprise me if there was more to what he told them