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how could such smart people...

posted 18 years ago by calikidd2k
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Be so dumb?

**spoilers**

From the second the dominos started falling I was pratically yelling at my screen "stop them or get out!" I mean, even if it was still just a scenario, did they really think that the dominos just happened to be there?
Then the idea of one of them going on the boat for the radio... I thought the 12 stood for noon and that one of them was gonna die then, cause of course the killer would expect them to try to get off/find a radio...
Then all of them realizing the killer was setting traps based on where they would likely be and then not even considering that they were right where they were likely to be and not being wary of a trap...
THEN they finally start to get cautious, but when they think that the trap is set to kill two people they all split up into groups of twos...

Of course the list goes on, but I think most of them would have survived if, once they figured out the traps were based on what they would do, they all just did completely random stuff... Just grab some food and blankets and go camping on the beach or sleep in a random one of the fake houses or shops
But I guess that wouldn't make much of a movie... I just wish there was a slasher movie where people acted intelligently and still managed to get killed, you know?

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[–] Devans00 17 years ago

I know. These people are supposed to be the best of the best, yet they have no common sense whatsoever. Their brains were moving in slow motion until there were only 4 people left.

If these clowns are the elite profilers, I'd hate to see what the mediocre ones are like.

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[–] sekhmet622 16 years ago

I am going to chime in and agree with you all. I was willing to suspend belief and go with the idea that the killer is so beyond incredible in his profiling that he knew exactly where everyone would be.

But them being this stupid just destroyed the movie. They didn't have the basic intelligence or skills of even an average person and most definitely not an 'elite' profiler.

[–] leroyol 16 years ago

I swear....that scene was actually funny to me lol!

When Christian Slater died, I thought it was fake and just a training module simulator or something, but when they carried his body away...I knew it was real. I agree though....when those Dominos started, my ass would've ran out that door!

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[–] sunezno (269) 2 years ago

These people are *in training to become profilers*. So they'd have the smarts at a basic level, but they're nowhere near "elite profilers" who've been doing it for years.
Still, they're FBI agents at the very least, so they should be smarter than they were anyway.

[–] salackar 16 years ago

About the domino's, they thought it was part of the simulation and wanted to see it through.
The radio: They were freaked out, maybe they weren't thinking straight.
Hard to think clearly when you're the victim.

[–] Random Terrain 16 years ago

I thought the same thing. Although this was before they knew there was a real killer, standing there staring at that Rube Goldberg-like setup was pretty stupid. It would be pretty stupid to even turn off the music. There could be a paint bomb in it or a paint bomb at the end of the Rube Goldberg-like setup or any non-lethal punishment where they'd be covered in powder or goo.

The writer or writers should have had at least a couple of them run out of there as soon as the dominos started to fall, so the audience wouldn't think they were all idiots. Make them seem smarter and find smarter ways to kill them.

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[–] TwoMushrooms 16 years ago

If you are an agent in training who saw a line of dominos fall, would you run like a scared schoolgirl or would you stay and watch what it was for in what you believe to be is a controlled environment? Nobody would run. Your colleagues would be "WTF is his/her problem"?

"What I do in public is my own business, damn it."

[–] Random Terrain 16 years ago

If you have a semi-nutty guy in charge who could have all kinds of nasty surprises for you to make you better than you are so you'll be ready for anything out in the real world, the smart person would run, not like a scared schoolgirl, but like an intelligent agent in training who knows when to run and when to duck.

It might make you feel like a big strong manly man to stand your ground and beat your chest, but that kind of crap will get you killed.

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[–] TwoMushrooms 16 years ago

Eh, yeah... standing your ground and beating your chest will get you killed (I suppose... what the hell is the point of that)? But like previously said, nobody of these agents knew it was an actual lethal trap. Everyone thought it was just a scenario set up by Kilmer's character in a controlled environment, hence why nobody is running around and taking cover.

"What I do in public is my own business, damn it."

[–] Random Terrain 16 years ago

Right, they didn't know it was lethal, but since he was trying to get them ready for the real world, he could have hit them with paint, a bag of flour, green slime, a big bag of cat poop or anything else you could imagine.

When in doubt, get the heck out.

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[–] jk80 14 years ago

Yeah that's my problem with this movie, they all act like a bunch of immature idiots rather than FBI agents, or even trainees. You'd hope they'd be measured and thoughtful, but instead they're screaming and shouting at each other straight away.

[–] Angel_Buffy 14 years ago

What I thought was so odd about the domino trap scene was that only one person tries to help him, and she gets pulled away. I really don’t think it would be *that* hard, even in the verse of the movie, where that gas is so dangerous, to just lean forward, and pull him.

[–] Koko_BG 14 years ago

Because it's a dumbass movie with a dumbass script with some dumbass FBI agents in it, lol. I didn't find the movie entertaining at all. The only interesting thing about it was trying to figure out who's the killer.
Half of the time they were pointing their guns towards each other, which was just lame.
When the nitrogen bottle fell and the gas was leaking straight to Christian Slater/J.D. Reston nobody moved, nobody tried to just turn the bottle aside. Only the histerical smoker woman tried to do something, but she was held by the others, and she tried to move towards Christian Slater/J.D. Reston and towards the gas respectively...
And the fighting scenes in the end and the shooting in the pool, when the bullets fell on the bottom of the pool after a few meters, were *beep* hilarious... Plus, who would be so stupid to fight LL Cool J??? Hahaha.

[–] sunezno (269) 2 years ago

You do know that bullets fired into water don't go very far, don't you? I was pleasantly surprised with the accuracy of that bit.

[–] generaldilvry69 14 years ago

What bothered me was how these "FBI" agents ended up like high school kids in a slasher film. No training was evident, hey let's investigate the strange noise! "Oh duh, you're the killer now Sarah." It would be believable if these dumb-asses were all 17 years old or retarded potheads like in Halloween H20. I am glad the film makers lost 20 million on this piece of crap, while on the other hand, "Running Scared" is a master piece of suspense.

3.5/10 round to 4 for trying

[–] Strazdamonas 13 years ago

because they are human. humans are dumb by default. and humans are predictable. just look at marketing. they wouldn't go do some "random stuff" because if they were that sort of people the killer would have anticipated that too.

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