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Look at it from the Vietnamese point of view


If you had so called 'foreign invaders' in your country and and you were at war with them they left THEIR flag on your country, would you really leave it there? In all reality they would have removed it. It basically suggests conquered lands. This scene is totally unrealistic

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Uh...South Vietnam did not belong to the North Vietnamese. In any case, 'back in the day', the Vietnamese kingdoms usually fought among themselves-or tried to gobble up Cambodian territory.

And...that is how the French got their 'in' into Indochina: by assisting Cambodia which was being 'carved up' between the Southern Vietnamese Kingdom & The Kingdom of Siam.

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Everything about this film (or about 98%) is totally accurate. The little flag he left was out of respect after they lost that battle when they had every advantage. I'm sure that wasn't left up the entire time. That was actually a famous picture of that flag on the exploded tree.

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And if Americans had lost the battle there would they reLly have left the communist flag there? Yeah rig.
Dream on.

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Again why do North Viets have a say in what happens in South Vietnam?





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The little flag he left was out of respect after they lost that battle when they had every advantage.


They did not have every advantage. They certainly did not have a whole artillery corp, naval and air force close air support and helicopter gunships backing them up.

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In any case the NVA regiment was tasked to 'take one for the team' & see what an Air Cav Division could 'dish out'.



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And you miss the point, namely that the NVA came back after the battle anyway. The USA "won" the battle, but had no political strategy to win the ultimate war.


"And the end will be same...except for the numbers of people who will die to get there...."

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, but had no political strategy to win the ultimate war.


And no idea or will to keep them from coming in from Laos or Cambodia thru the Ho Chi Minh trail.




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The USA "won" the battle, but had no political strategy to win the ultimate war.


Like you know anything. Too bad the US military didn't have this IMDb board to consult so they could benefit from your superior military opinions!! All would have been different. It couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that the American public didn't support the war after personalities like Walter Cronkite spoke out against it and the will to fund it dried up, could it.





620,000 whites died to free black slaves and not a single thank you yet.

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Uh, that was exactly my point. Learn to read....

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You made no point idiot.




620,000 whites died to free black slaves and not a single thank you yet.

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Uh, again, I don't disagree. Walter Cronkite, and other liberal media figures, were *beep* But that just proves the point. If you don't win a war politically today, then *you don't win*.

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Your belief and opinion is not reality.
Get over it.

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The North was the foreign invaders when they invaded South Vietnam.

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this argument is fallacious for the simple reason the "domino" theory of other nations galling to communist rule would happen if we turned on Vietnam....
Gen Westmorland and McNamara later accepted the invasion was wrong...my dad served 2 tours so it's personal. wtf were we doing there Anyway? Preserving democracy....OK I got some waterfront property for sale in the Mohave on the cheap.

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So Walter Cronkite lost the Vietnam War?


Nowhere did I say that.

What did you do in Vietnam?


You have no idea and never will.



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There was no support at home because, as they other guy said, it was a wholly untenable position. We get it, you think that by being critical of one's country is treasonous and that any position the USA takes is the right one; Vietnam was wrong and never winnable in a strategic sense. You confuse tactics with strategy. And you're simple. So there's that, as well.

Your clumsy statement about the Civil War exposes your profound ignorance about history, so pardon me if I place absolutely no credence in your amateur assessment of Vietnam.

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That being said, I feel if JFK found a way to contain the North Viet forces that were in Laos (they committed a division's worth of troops in Laos to support their proxies during the Laos Crisis.) and cut the budding Ho Chi Minh trail AND not destabilize Diem things would have gone differently. MUCH of what happened had to do with North Vietnam being able to rest, reinforce & resupply their forces in Laos & parts of Cambodia....perhaps Kennedy could have also 'sweet talked' Prince Sihanouk into not allowing supplies to North Vietnam to be routed thru Sihanoukville port?





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The Republic of Vietnam was an ally-Like The Republic of Korea & The Republic of China;




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