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Decent film, ruined by Euroweenie anti-Americanism


The minimalism works well, the acting is fantastic with the notable exception of Chloe Sevigny, and the morality message is a good one. Sure it's too long and too slow but if you know that going in you'll be fine.

However, it only works if the film is about evil in general. And unfortunately, the director makes it painfully clear that he is just another anti-American moron, and he is trying to explicitly express his hatred against America. The depression-era photos, the Bowie song, and the fact that this is supposed to be part of a trilogy sarcastically entitled "America: Land of Opportunity" ... dear God Lars, could you be any more of a Eurotrash stereotypical dope?

Apparently not, and it's too bad.

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No more anti-American than Clint Eastwood. His portrayal of a corrupt town was better done in High Plains Drifter (check it out). Not too many people are going to say Clint Eastwood is anti-american. You are only saying that because the director was European.

The closing credits I do have an issue with. It was the worst closing credit sequence imaginable. A great movie almost ruined by a poor choice of song and pictures in the closing credits. They had nothing to do with the movie. Unless the director is trying to imply being poor makes people evil. I hope he isn't trying to imply such a silly notion (something American liberals laughingly do).

I'll just copy and paste my the rest of my thoughts from the several other anti american threads.


I don't believe it is anti-american. Although you could make a case for the closing credits, but I'll discuss those later. The closing credits didn't seem to have anything to do with the film. To say this film is anti American is to say Clint Eastwood is anti American for making High Plains Drifter and Unforgiven. Which is what this film reminded me of. Those films came first, so this film ripped off those films. And it is possible those films ripped off films that came before it. Not too many people are going to say Clint Eastwood is anti American for making dark movies of evil towns. The only reason they are saying this here is because the director is European.

The closing credits however, are a little different. But they seemed to be a cheap dig at capitalism. I say cheap, because it's easy to paint the worst of capitalism, but it's cheap because you aren't portraying the best of capitalism. If I may be so presumptuous, I'll include myself as the best of capitalism. I rose up from poor to upper middle class. I have no debt, and significant assets. People act like only the rich can invest in the stock market. That is not true. Much of my money was made that way. The rest was made using my brain (I do physical labor too, but that's not a major part of my job). Work smarter, not harder. Get an education, and by education I don't mean BS classes for a piece of paper, I mean actually improve how your brain thinks, and try to learn to think logically and problem solve. The left will have you believe it is impossible to raise to a higher economic class in this country, I call BS because I have done it. And if I had kids, I have enough money to send them to an ivy league school, and they could be even richer than I. That's how you build wealth.

It's also cheap because you are not showing the worst of socialism. I didn't see any pictures of Caracas in the ending. Why not? Because the director was a weenie. He made a great movie, and almost ruined it by the closing credits. The closing credits had nothing to do with the movie. Unless the director is trying to imply that had the town's residents been wealthy with the extravagant wealth Socialism brings, they wouldn't have committed such evil acts. But I don't even think the director is that stupid. Only liberals in the U.S. are.

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America is the Vessel. Humanity is the subject.

America is a perfect vessel of exploring corruption, and your defensive nature has caused to you miss the fact that he isn't claiming any elitism or betterment by any other system.

Wake up you dingus.

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Oh my god....... her acting was SO BAD. Unreal.

"Oh dearie me! Ah'm jest SO GLAYUD YEU showed up Miss Grayce, now them's boys mayn't not be spendin' all dat tahm tryin' to look up mah skehrts!"

Chloe Sevigny makes a TERRIBLE Southern girl. That was one awful casting choice.

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