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Joyce was an idiot (SPOILER)

posted 14 years ago by petekrug17
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At the end of the film, when the house is really going nuts, all the surviving characters are getting ready to leave, Steven tries to get her to come with her, but she INSISTS on staying.

Um...hello? The house has already killed a number of them, it's clearly dangerous at this point being in there, yet Joyce decides she wants to stay, all by herself no less. I don't care how obsessed she was about discovering and showing the world it's secret, this is much like leaping into the road just as a speeding semi comes by. A moment later when the ghosts come for her, she starts screaming and acting terrified, showing that she didn't want to die. Again, how could she do such a thing and expect not to be killed?

[–] 14 years ago

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[–] WatchAnythingOnce 13 years ago

Yep. Plus, she may have been in thrall to the house at that point and not really free to make a rational decision. Then when that delusion dissolved, she was left alone and that's when she began showing really terror at what was about to happen to her.

[–] TheFatDruidofNacyl 14 years ago

I think it was just her obsession to the most extreme.

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[–] december_roses 13 years ago

I think by that point, she was already under the grasp of the house. Because there's one moment of clarity after the doors close that she realizes she wants out but can't get out.

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[–] ceasarsean 10 years ago

He should have just picked her up and carried her out. In a way I wish she had survived, to see how she feels after that experience. But then again that ending was meant to happen.

[–] mizkex 9 years ago

You also have to remember that when Annie went started working against the house, her psychic powers could not be controlled, and it was so powerful in breaking the vase, the glass and the piano of the room that it also started to destroy all the equipment that Joyce had rented from the psychology which according to Miller when into the thousands, if not tens of thousands.

Joyce was losing all the evidence that she had aspired into salvaging her career, the university was not happy with her work and thought it was pointless and worthless.

Going into Rose Red and getting "hard data" was supposed to re-establish her credibility, and with the telemetry readout machines being destroyed, the Rose Red experiment was all for nothing. Maybe in staying in the house as it began to implode was her refusal to go back in to the world where she'd have no credibility and likely no career.