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Nobody forced her to be a huge fatty


This movie ignores what she brought on herself. People want a healthy mate, who can enjoy life and be around for a long time. They let that slide way too easy in this movie.

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I don't remember the movie, it's been too long. Was she a lazy girl who doesn't exercise and ate fast food daily?

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Lol, yes ate fast food and was propably not into sports.
But she worked in the childrends department at a hospital and helped poor children abroad.

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She was shown to over eat and eat a lot of junk food, which is a bit of honesty from the filmmaker, if I'm being fair. I just felt like it should have been acknowledged that her choice wasn't healthy. Honestly, Rosemary didn't have any real arc, which I'd never thought about before. At some point, she should have had her own epiphany about taking care of herself, but this movie posits the notion that its fine to be morbidly obese if you have someone who doesn't care. Kind of a fucked up message.

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Interesting take. It's been many years since I saw this but remember liking and recommending. But yes if Hal had to change his way of seeing people, perhaps she should have changed her outlook about herself. They should have ended the film showing them a couple years later where she was at least noticeably less obese.

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Maybe if the film had depicted Rosemary not overeating we as an audience would have more sympathy for the character.

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The point is that Rosemary had such a good heart but got only considered as a best friend.
She gets denied by other because of her weight, while too thin girls (which is also not that healthy) always get guys.

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She shouldn't be denied love, but she shouldn't get a pass either.

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Also, Hal wasn’t exactly a prize pig either.

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For sure

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Sorry but you're wrong about this. The movie implied very much that her obesity was generic as both her parents were obese and her father mentioned not being able to bounce her on her knee since she was 2. Not all obese people got that way from eating and being lazy. Many of them have genetic or medical issues that cause them to gain weight no matter what they do. As for what she ate, I agree a healthier diet would have been better for her just like it would for anyone no matter what their weight. She didn't need to go out of her way to always eat junk and large amounts which the movie showed her doing.

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Strange how all these diseases that make it impossible to lose weight simply skip over the poorest countries in the world and were almost nonexistent just few decades ago.

But sure there are medical conditions that make it harder for some to lose weight but not impossible that is an exaggeration. And this does not apply to most overweight people.

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Careful there, Sparky!

People don't like hearing the reality of truth in the post 2020 world :D
Truth equals hate speech lately.

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Calorie reduction causes weight loss, period. Genetics can make it harder for some than others, but blaming genetics is a convenience that fat people use, not a fact. "Gaining weight no matter what you do" is not grounded in science. Possibly there are some very rare exceptions to this that would be medical abnormalities, but that's not your talking about.

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Calorie reduction CAN cause weight loss.

I dropped 50 lbs by strictly limiting my calories to 1,200 per day

Over the next eight years, the weight crept back up and now won't go down for anything more than 1,000 calories a day

Meaning: your body fights HARD to stay fat -- it's NOT just about discipline and control

And genetics DOES play a huge role, as science is starting to learn. It's always POSSIBLE to lose weight, but if your body is fighting tooth and nail to be fat, it's WAAAAY harder than it is for people who are naturally thin

In this movie, Rosemary outright states that she overeats because, after years of trying to lose weight, she's finally given up. Yes, there will be consequences, but what matters is she's living her life and is, at least for herself, OK with how she is.

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Yes, you used discipline to control your caloric intake to fall under what you burned, so you lost weight. That's exactly what i said. Mary obviously never did that. Her "trying" was obviously not successful, because she ate more than she burned, plain and simple. And MULTIPLE times in the movie it shows her indulging in an impractical way, like eating the majority of a cake herself. She's making excuses and not acknowledging her own failing. Yeah, anyone who eats entire cakes is going to be fat. She knows this yet chooses to continue to be a glutton. Its all on her.

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Both of you are right. Genetics do play a role, I'm skinny and I don't do any exercise. If not for my IBS, I would have a very bad diet. I try to eat healthy food, but from time to time I eat some unhealthy, caloric foods. I love ice cream, sometimes I eat over half a kilogram at once without any worries, at least concerning my weight.

It seems unfair that obese people cannot eat ice cream that way. But at the same time, doing on a regular basis isn't good, even for skinny people. A woman making zero effort for a more healthy diet will not be attractive to me even if she's skinny. But to be brutally honest, an obese woman wouldn't be attractive to me either, even if she's trying hard to improve her diet.

I think the message of the movie is somewhat wrong, they should have gone for a middle ground, making Rosemary lose a few kg, going from morbidly obese to "plus size" in a rather typical "6 months later" scene. But such a scene would have been controversial too anyways.

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"as both of her parents were obese"

Because they ate too much and exercised too little, and they passed on their bad habits to her when they were raising her. As long as she keeps whining "waaaah, it's my genes, it's my metabolism, it's my big bones, it's advertising, it's Hollywood, it's The Patriarchy" instead of taking responsibility for what she shoves into her face and how often she gets off her big ass and moves, she's going to stay fat.

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Rosemary was pretty ugly on the inside actually. She was a glutton and came from privilege. Volunteer work doesn't make someone a saint.

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True. I'm not even sure she had a job, so she should spend some time volunteering.

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That's what I noticed too watching this movie again as adult. She wasn't even employed anywhere. I think she was supported by her parents. The film tries to frame ''Hal'' as kind of the villain originally for judging women for their looks and his punishment comes as a curse to only see ugly and fat women as ''pretty''. But Hal wasn't even a bad person, he was a hard worker dedicated to his job. Rosemary comes off as entitled and greedy.

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