This movie gives a very skewed perception. Yes, I know it's a movie, but it's stupid.
Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If someone needs to be killed, you kill 'em.
I agree.
My sister-in-law let's my 5 year old niece watch this movie, but refuses to let her watch The Simpsons, afraid it will warp her mind.
I have to explain to my niece (who doesn't understand) they don't let dumb@sses into one of the top Law Schools in the Country b/c they have a lot of exrtacurricular activities on their Highschool Resume.
what about conan o'brien then? he graduated harvard and is host of late night? he even wrote FOR the simpsons. uh huh, okay.
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What would warp her mind more is to not be able to comprehend the ideas of caricature, hyperbole, satire, and other literary and artistic devices. Not only will she have trouble understanding artworks, but if she gets used to interpreting everything "literally", taking everything at face value, and trusting everything, she'll have all kinds of problems in day-to-day interactions that have nothing to do with artworks, too.
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Perfect response, although I think it'll go over OP's head.
shareWhy wouldn't she get into Harvard with a 4.0 from UCLA and a nearly perfect score on the LSATs? (and, later, as we see, intelligence and natural skill in the courtroom? )
The point of the movie is, she WASN'T a dumbass, even though she was cute and bubbly and liked getting her nails done. She was intelligent and successful, as well. And her undergraduate grades and scores reflected this.
Sounds like somebody didn't get the point about the blonde stereotypes after watching the movie. ;)
UCLA? Her college was "CU" or something. You have to be pretty smart to get into UCLA and she and her peers definitely WEREN'T.
Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If someone needs to be killed, you kill 'em.
Yes, but it was obviously meant to be UCLA.
And the whole point of the movie was that just because she was bubbly and liked clothes and superficial stuff didn't mean she wasn't ALSO smart (as her 4.0 GPA and near-perfect LSAT score showed). But I guess you missed that point. :P
It was obviously meant to be UCLA? Please indulge me.
Also, her 4.0 GPA was in fashion design classes. I guess you missed that part of the movie.
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CULA = City University of Los Angeles. It's a real school. It's not UCLA.
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In regards to CULA and UCLA-- they say in the commentary on the DVD that they meant it to be UCLA, but the real school didn't want them to do it. Thus, they switched it to something extremely similar, but not actually UCLA.
So I think we can safely assume that CULA is supposed to be the same "level" of school as UCLA, whatever you determine that to be.
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FWIW, in today's New York Times crossword puzzle, the answer to "Campus attended by Elle in 'Legally Blonde.'" is "UCLA."
shareIn the book, she attends UCLA, but they switched it to CULA because UCLA wouldn't allow it. Ironically, UCLA did grant them permission to film on the premises when shooting the "Harvard" scenes. University of Southern California and California Institute of Technology also doubled for Harvard. Furthermore, in the book Elle actually attends Stanford Law School, but Stanford disapproved of the script, so the main setting was changed to Harvard.
Oy! I hope that wasn't too confusing. haha
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I know this is really late, but my best friend was a fashion design major, it's NOT easy.
It's actually one of the hardest degrees.
Get a 4.0 in a fashion design degree, and then come back here and tell me how easy it was.
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Just because it's a design major doesn't mean it's easy; it's extremely challenging and requires a lot of smarts + originality.
But Elle was a fashion merchandising major.
SHe wasn't a design major btw, she was a fashion merchandizing major.
shareit's like....near impossible to get a 179 on the LSAT, which Elle did. An LSAT score that high guarantees you a merit scholarship/automatic admission to some law schools (lower ranked than Harvard), so it's actually completely realistic that Harvard would accept someone with a 179, even if they went to a non-Ivy undergraduate college and (gasp) belonged to a sorority.
sharethat part was BS, nobody goes from a 143 to a 179. even with intense study and a 3-month prep course, she'd probably top-out at 160, if even.
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*beep* ..u are a psycho .
thats my job but yeah feel free to join the club.
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Exactly! The movie was trying to stress not to judge a book by its cover. Warner did. He assummed that Elle was stupid because she liked clothes, facials, etc. The whole point of the movie was that Elle WASN'T stupid just because she was obssessed with the color pink and was into fashion. Hell, I've had people automatically judge me because I follow fashions trends, like to get pedicures and manicures, read magazines like Cosmo and In Style, etc. They're always surprised (and embarrassed) when I mention that I'm a chemist. Yes, I'm into fashion and all, but I graduated Summa Cum Laude from college with a double major in chemistry and biology. I'm not stupid just because I like fashion *rolls eyes*
shareExactly, cloudburst! I'm right there with you. :)
And, Mr. Psycho, law schools accept people who have undergraduate majors in many different areas. You don't need a degree in electrical engineering to get into a top law school. What you do need is an excellent GPA, LSAT score, essay, and extracurricular record. Elle, as the movie showed us, was outstanding in all of those categories.
The only support you have for your belief that the movie is not UCLA is "you have to be pretty smart to get into UCLA and she and her peers definitely weren't."
I guess you've never been to UCLA (or Berkeley...or Stanford) and seen the numerous sororities they have there, exactly like this one. Being attractive or being in a sorority doesn't mean you are too dumb to get into those schools.
It's a bummer some people still totally miss the point of the movie - which was that even cute blondes who like fashion can be smart and successful. Oh well, cloudburst, I guess we can't convince them all. :)
You don't have to be a doctor or a lawyer or anything like that to proove you're not stupid.
Without cashiers how can life go on.
Without people working in corner shops life would be very hard.
It does not mean they're not smart.
People can have medical problems.
Like epilepsy can affect memory they're good at maths for example, but they forget and can't get the grade.
I know somebody like that.
I like to paint pictures and write poetry.
Read cosmo and other mags.
I looooove Getting pedicures, tans, manicures, facials and pink and i am bubbly, funny and friendly.
Doesn't mean i am dumb or stupid and nor is anybody else.
I bet the person who started this thread is full of PHD'Z AND A LEVELS AND DEGREES AND WHATNOT and it looking down on everyone else...
WHAT A SNOB.
WHAT A LOW LIFE.
SO I GUESS THE PERSON WHO BEGAN THIS THREAD DIDN'T GET THE MOROL OF THIS LOVELY FILM AS I THINK ITS ENDED MOST STEREOTYPING FOR BLONDE PEOPLE AS IT DID MY FRIENDS, BUT THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THE WORLD.
GET A LIFE.
WHEN YOU DO
GOD HELP YOU.
Keep it that way.
Sorry for saying all this, but i had to.
I just did my blood boiled we're not perfect we are all only human.
Why don't you guys get lives and stop making long posts trying to defend what was an obviously stupid film. Cute but dumb and unrealistic. I'm not going to waste my time dissecting each of your points but I'll just say that it's obvious I'm not the one missing the "point" of this movie.
Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If someone needs to be killed, you kill 'em.
Well, if we don't have a life then you obviously don't either because you're on here trying to debunk our arguments that being blonde, fashionable, and bubbly means your an idiot. We aren't the ones missing the point of the movie. You are. And being in a sorority doesn't mean someone is stupid either. Sororities do have minimum acedemic requirements that their members have to maintain. That being said, Elle's two best friends probably would not have lasted in a sorority due to poor grades. I got the feeling they did make poor grades; thus, they would likely have been expelled from their sorority unless they were able to improve their GPA. That part of the movie about sororities was pretty off-base. However, Elle was smart as was shown by her grades in school. She was able to maintain a high GPA while doing tons of extracurricular activities. That's not easy to accomplish. Trust me. I was VP of my sorority and had tons of responsibilities from that position as well as being members and officers of several other organizations including academic and service organizations. On top of my extracurricular activities, I had to keep up my GPA, and maintaining a high GPA while studying chemistry and biology is not easy to do. But I did it. How? Because I worked my butt off. When I wasn't participating in extracurricular activities, I was studying. When I was accepted to grad school, they said a deciding factor in accepting me to the program(which only has a few available spots a year) was that I had managed to maintain such a high GPA with my many numerous activities. It shows motivation, time management, etc. Elle's large number of extracurricular activities coupled with a perfect 4.0 GPA (and a high score on the LSAT) was probably the deciding factor for her getting into grad school. It proved what a hard worker she is. A person is only so smart as the effort they put into their work. A person with a higher IQ can be bested by someone with a lower IQ who has a better work ethic. Elle obviously had a great work ethic and it showed.
shareMy point was that I'm NOT going to try to debunk anything. Just look at the length and number of my posts vs. your posts. I didn't even read that. I don't care. The movie was not created so pseudo-intellectuals could go through it point by point. It was sheer dumb entertainment. So go find something more constructive to do with your time.
Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If someone needs to be killed, you kill 'em.
I got a life thanks.
So what i can defend whatever i like.
So why do you worry about what i am defending.
If its sooooo stupid then why do you give such a damn there is something thats making you give a damn.
So whatever...
If you aint got a life go get one you will reply saying you have, but to proove it then stop and worrying about what we defend.
I don't need to prove anything. And I know "debunk" was on the sixth grade challenge spelling list last week but you should learn the meaning too.
Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If someone needs to be killed, you kill 'em.
Well whatever so you can say what you want and nobody else can thats what i sounds like.
Well whatever i aint here to fight seeya l8r
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"So go find something more constructive to do with your time."
More constructive than bitching about something that doesn't agree with your own narrow minded perspective of the real world? Double standards much?
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I totally agree with you, Cloudburst. Great post.
The movie took dramatic license to be more entertaining, but it wasn't totally inaccurate. But mainly ResidentPsycho's statement that Elle couldn't have gotten into Harvard (with her transcript, LSATs, and extracurriculars) is totally incorrect.
Assuming someone is stupid DESPITE evidence of straight A's, near perfect LSATs, and an excellent courtroom Perry Mason moment -- just because you are focusing on their hair and clothing -- must mean you have some pretty major blonde stereotypes going on. Oh well - that's his loss. We'll just continue to take over the world, while guys like this continue to underestimate us. (Watch out for Hillary Clinton, ResidentPsycho, she's a dumb blonde too you know!)
*tosses hair* ;)
wow, you are even stupider than I suspected. Show me one place where I mentioned hair color or bashed sororities/fashion. Why don't you watch the movie again? You obvious missed a lot of it.
Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If someone needs to be killed, you kill 'em.
I did look back at your posts, and you have provided NOTHING to support your opinions. The only thing you said was that she majored in fashion design and marketing so her 4.0 couldn't have been worth that much. That is completely egotistical. Why would you automatically assume that classes involving fashion design are an easy A? And on top of those classes, she would STILL have to take the standard curriculum which would include classes outside her major. Obviously, to get a 4.0, she maintained perfect grades in those classes too.
If you want people to listen to your opinion, then you actually need to say something that actually SUPPORTS it. All you have said in your numerous posts is how stupid we are for maintaining that someone like Elle could get into Harvard...someone with a 4.0 GPA, almost perfect scores on the LSATS(a very very difficult test), tons of extracurricular activities, etc. And maybe you never came out and said anything about blondes or sororities, but that is totally what your attitude has said. You've given no reason why Elle wouldn't be accepted so that likely means your buying into the stereotype.
I've never implied anything of the sort. Like I said, watching the movie helps a lot.
Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If someone needs to be killed, you kill 'em.
No, actually, I'm not stupid. You, however, seem to be having trouble understanding what the rest of us here are saying, so let me explain it to you:
Since you're ignoring the fact that Elle Woods had a 4.0 and near perfect LSATS, you appear to be basing your belief that she is "stupid" and would "never get into Harvard" on something other than her academic record. You have made disparaging reference to things like her membership in the sorority, her appearance, her interest in fashion.
Some of us were merely trying to explain to you that you missed the point that those things don't necessarily bear on (1) intelligence and/or (2) ability to get into a good law school.
I and others already told you what law schools look at for admissions, and explained to you that Elle's scores, grades and activities would in fact place her in a good position to get into Harvard, but you ignored it, choosing instead to focus on the stereotypes the movie was trying to combat or some other unarticulated notion of why Elle "would not get into Harvard" (read = "is dumb.")
(also, despite the fact that you edited some of your previous statements about those stereotypes out of your first post, I still remember what you said and our responses to you reflect them.)
You have made disparaging reference to things like her membership in the sorority, her appearance, her interest in fashion.
I just explained it to you. If you want to continue to ignore the rest of our points when you have no intelligent response, and just make ad hominem attacks, that's fine, but I'm not going to go back and explain it to you eighty-three more times.
You still haven't responded to the point that she got a 4.0 and a nearly perfect LSAT score, but somehow in your mind she'd "never get into Harvard" because she's "stupid."
I don't want to argue with someone who just made a completely obvious lie to try to defend themselves but also unrealistic was her LSAT score. Also, it's pretty obvious you have little life experience but fashion-design classes tend to be a bit easier than Advanced Calc, so a 4.0 is not too impressive. Get over yourself and stop being a lying crybaby.
Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If someone needs to be killed, you kill 'em.
I don't know what you're talking about - nothing I've said has been a lie. I'm merely responding to your argument, and you're upset that you're getting your butt kicked by a bunch of girls. :)
Re: your point about Calculus, do you have any idea how many English, Communications, and other "easy" majors there are in law school as opposed to Calculus majors? Your theory on how "hard" classes are factoring into GPA considerations is not the way law school admissions work. And it's not really the way any kind of hiring works in the real world in the legal field. It's GPA, LSAT, extracurriculars, and essay. Major in college and/or the classes you take is really not that huge a factor, as long as you went to a good undergraduate school.
denial, major denial.
Major in college and/or the classes you take is really not that huge a factor.
Hey, don't dog state schools. Just because a school isn't an Ivy League school or private university does not mean it is not a good school. I went to state school for undergrad, but even as a state school, we had one of the best chemistry programs in the nation. Every year our 'state' school beat out all the private schools in the state for high scores in chemistry and biology on the GREs(Graduate Records Exams). And my puny little 'state' school also has one of the best communications and journalism programs in the nation. I had the opportunity to go to private schools, but I chose the state school because they had the better science program. Private schools are not always better than state schools.
sharei totally agree, there is no way in hell someone like elle woods or whatever the *beep* her name was, could ever get into harvard law.. i mean pink scented paper? yeah go ahead and toss all your liberal postmodern open-mindedness at me, but law schools and certainly harvard at that, will believe very strongly in tradition and strict adherence to formalities. she would have been tossed out just by the colour of her paper, when you consider how many applications they must get each year. secondly, i recall one of her listed activities or something to that effect, was SHOPPING. seriously, give me a break. and in any case, the only reason she successfully won her case... was due to her pathetic interest in fashion combined with good gaydar.
give me a break
* Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?*
Come on, its pointless for adults to fight with a 6th grader. Stop replying to Psycho's comments. Obviously her logic and insight isnt as developed as an adult.
shareWow, a movie that's not entirely accurate to real life? Shocking. Also, she said that her HOBBY is shopping. There is nothing wrong with that.
Funny how you say that fashion design is "stupid" and apparently makes someone stupid even though the most notable fashion designers are MEN. Would you be saying the same thing if Elle was a man?
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Hey, nothing against state schools. Berkeley is my first choice.
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Legally Blonde is a lighthearted post-feminist fantasy movie, whose intention was to change peoples stereotypical views of women. Just because your beautiful doesn't mean you can't also be smart and successful. You don't have to chose femininity over intelligence.
Even though this movie is a fantasy, the reality is, if Elle had chosen to stay in fashion and beauty and NOT pursue law, with her intelligence and hard work she actually would have been richer and more "successful" than even most top lawyers. If she had started her own fashion and or beauty line her company could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars in the real world.
Anyone who thinks getting a degree in Fashion Design and/or Marketing from a reputable school is a cake walk is ignorant. Actually making it in such a brutal field is even harder.
The apparel industry is BILLION DOLLAR industry.
Getting a Law Degree from Harvard? That's a cakewalk compared to making it Fashion, and it gets harder every year.
A blonde former sorority girl by the name of Betsy Johnson now has 70 stores, 800 wholesale accounts and many other credits to her name. To put those numbers in monitory perspective, her dresses retail for $500 a piece.
And her brand's color is pink.
Source: http://www.betseyjohnson.com/images/wwd_milestones.pdf
Your argument is moot.
Educate yourself, before you talk about things you know NOTHING about.
It's actually quite ironic that someone who says a girl like Elle Woods couldn't get in Harverd Law School, doesn't even know how to make a valid factual based argument.
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You have a point but keep in mind that starting a fashion/comestic line while it does have to do with intelligence it's still also very hard to be successful no matter how smart you are. For every Betsey Johnson there are hundreds of other non-success stories of people who tried but didn't make it. Even jobs working for people like Betsey Johnson are very competitive.
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Oooh, I just caught this gem
(also, despite the fact that you edited some of your previous statements about those stereotypes out of your first post, I still remember what you said and our responses to you reflect them.)
Hon, ad homenim attacks aren't helping your argument. You edited your posts and removed some of the comments you made before. Even if you hadn't, the "arguments" that remain in your posts still make it perfectly clear what you are basing your judgement of Elle's "stupidity" on. And you refuse to address the point we have all repeatedly pointed out to you about her excellent academic record. Which is what schools like Harvard accept and reject people on.
Yeah, I'm definitely a moron - I went to a top ten school, so I guess they take only idiots like me and Elle Woods. *eye roll*
Quit trying to save yourself and admit that you made that up. I never edited anything out. It's a habit for me to edit posts quickly to correct things like typos. Even if I had, you'd literally have had to catch it within 2 minutes. And you responded a few hours after each edited post so I don't think that's very plausible. Besides, you said the FIRST POST, and I don't see and edited tag on that first post. Oh, what a tangled web we weave, hmm?
Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If someone needs to be killed, you kill 'em.
I didn't make it up at all. I remember clearly that you had more comments in your posts earlier in this thread (I thought your first post, not the first post here but the first one in this thread) disparaging her being in a sorority and for being a fashion major, and it looks to me like they are gone now. I didn't keep a detailed record of what each of your posts contained, but I do remember you making those statements and some of our responses to them still exist in this thread. Even without them being there anymore though it's still obvious what you were saying and where you were getting it from.
You're obviously trying to go off on this false and bizarre tangent because you can't defend your main argument anymore, so I'll take that as a good sign and conclude my posting here now, because you're obviously never gonna get it. :) But it's been interesting.
Even Cloudburst can testify to the fact that there was nothing mentioning sororities or fashion. And the 2 posts that I edited were clearly meant to be short, and concise. Jesus Christ...
Oh, and for the record, I'm female. And attractive. Therefore there would be no reason for me to be discriminatory in the looks department.
Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If someone needs to be killed, you kill 'em.
Okay, I looked at the edited posts to make sure I'm not losing it. One had nothing to do with the movie, the other said "Show me one place where I mentioned hair color or bashed sororities/fashion". There goes your theory.
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She was very smart and beautiful! Blondes rock!!!!!!! Blondes are adored brunettes are ignored. I would take a marilyn over a jackie any day!!!!!!
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I know a natural blonde woman who is very smart even as a child. She is currently living in Texas. But she did everything early as a baby. And was a good student. She is bilingual and knows Spanish almost as well as English. And she was even an exchange student in Spain.
shareEven if a person isn't smart enough, ANYONE can get into Harvard if you have the money...
shareAmen to that!
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shareLook, let's break it down.
Btw I'm actually British, so I'm not sure what the max mark on the LSAT is or anything, but I've picked it up and done a little research.
Elle has a 4.0. It has been repeatedly drummed into me at school that it is the grades, not the subjects that count. To get a 4.0 in anything requires dedication and intellect. I suppose those are two of the qualities Harvard requires?
Elle got over 175 on her LSAT. If that's the minimum mark needed to get into Harvard, it must be pretty high. But she surpassed it. This shows intellect and willingness to study.
Elle participated in lots of extra-curricular activities. I can't even do one (apart from a role in the school play), what with my workload (yes, I am looking to get all A's). She must have a truly exemplary work ethic in order to fit in everything.
And, Psycho, your ridiculous point about one course being easier than others? I am sick of people thinking that. I'm doing Drama A-Level (along with three others) and people constantly regard that as a soft option. They forget that putting together a 30-minute play from scratch is rock hard. You need over 90% to get an A and it is one of the hardest things I've ever done. But I'm getting there. So don't give me that bulls**t about 'soft' options. I dread to think of the amount and depth of research Elle had to do to get a 4.0 on Fashon and Merchandising.
So, in the end, Psycho, your argument seems to be that, because Elle physically resembles Marilyn Monroe, like having manicures and pedicures and (in her own words) her 'boobs are too big' she does not have the necessary intellect to get into Harvard.
God, you're even shallower than her friends are.
I agree
The biggest plot hole about her "getting into harvard" is the one no one's brought up. On her practice test for the LSAT she gets a 143. Quite frankly, that's bombing the LSAT. The scores range from 120 to 180. There's almost no way someone can make up that much ground (143 to a 175) simply by doing test prep.
shareMaybe she worked EXTRA hard sometimes people do things and are more determine when they love someone even if they don't have to do it they still do it to you know make them happy and stuff even if they accept them as they are and in Elle's Case He did not so she was determine to get him back, she must have done more work on it and who knows they might have cut it out as they do alot in films maybe the producers wanted to make us think and stuff you know not to give it all away.
shareObviously the film is exaggerated. My biggest problem was how late she applied. Not too late of course. But rolling admissions makes it tough. But it is not beyond the scope of possibility.
The fashion design thing could actually help more than hurt. All Law Schools (even Harvard) stress diversity. I was told early on not to a pre-law thing in undergrad. Just do what you find interesting it doesn't matter. Fashion design may be a bit of a stretch. But they like to bring in people who have different backgrounds.
Her score and GPA were good enough. Her school was fake so I don't know. But I am assuming. Also, there is no City University of California located in LA. It seems to be a spoof on UCLA, which is a very good school.
At my law school almost everyone I know male and female was greek. I was not. But apparently its something that looks good on your application. So being in a sorority is also something that helps.
It is not impossible to get a 143 on your practice LSAT and go to almost perfect. At all. My first practice I did fairly poor, 140s. And I ended up getting a 174, which is pretty good. I just wasn't used to that kind of test the first time.
To the person you said you need to have a lot of high school activities. That is just not true. By the time you get to post grad work no one cares about what you did in high school. And I was told by many people that if you are putting that out there at this point than people will assume you have nothing else going for you.
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Jeez, it's a movie, people. Take it with a very large grain of salt. It was a "feel good" movie, so feel good, (or not), and then move on with your lives.
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Well, agreed. It *is* just a movie. I just thought I'd throw that out there since they talk about it on the DVD.
By the way, I love your Jim quote, Denise.
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By the way, I love your Jim quote, Denise.
Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of smart blondes who have chances to make it into an Ivy League school.
But a spoiled rotten daddy's little valley girl who is far more into fashion than into building her character and intellect... GIVE ME A BREAK!!
It's absolutely unrealistic from any point of view. What's next? A 120lb math geek getting picked to play college football?
Elle was smart, though. She had a 4.0 (overall, not major: remember that she wouldn't be taking nothing but fashion courses) and scored pretty damn high on her LSATs.
shareI agree, she had a 4.0 and had a great LSAT score. That's enough to get you into Harvard Law. That was the point of the movie, that blondes aren't necessarily stupid.
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Okay, I've just seen this movie for the first time, and I have noticed quite a few interesting remarks on this post.
First, to the person who said that the 143 prep test score was too much to make up, that is entirely wrong. People often take prep tests without any studying at all as a guage for how much they need to make up and in which areas they will need the most help. If she scored a 143 without studying, then that is a very good start, and a very logical starting point to eventually achieving a 179.
Secondly, to the person who said that the "Elle Woods" character is simply a "spoiled rotten daddy's little valley girl who is far more into fashion than into building her character and intellect," this is also extremely unfair. Aside from the question of her intellect, she has most certainly built her character. It is displayed several times throughout the film that she is an extremely kind and compassionate individual. I personally consider true intelligence to be a good combination of compassion and book learned knowledge. That said, if I had to pick between a person who wears fur, but had memorized the Unabridged Oxford English Dictionary word for word, and a person who couldn't read, but fully understood and felt compassion for the animals being used for fur, then I would choose the compassionate "dumbling" over the fur bearing "braniac." I, of course, use both terms loosely.
Thirdly, to the original poster, a truly intelligent person always backs up their claim with a good argument. If you've already wasted 10+ posts on trying to make this movie sound ridiculous, you might as well have made an actual point. It is already painfully obvious to the rest of us that you don't have anything better to do than to act as watch dog for your post.
Finally, I understand the original poster's frustration with this movie, but even I must admit that Elle Woods are possible. A person can seem image obsessed, yet also be a compassionate and intelligent individual. Besides, I can see this movie from the percpective of the Elle Woods of this world. Imagine all your life being viewed as an idiot just because you like to wear pink. That's just as bad as the "pink wearers" judging all "birkenstock wearers" as being nothing more than nerds without lives or any sense of fun or fashion at all. Perhaps it is best for us all to be more understanding of the other, which is the message that is conveyed in this film. In the end, Elle not only gains respect but also the brunette Viv, who is revealed to be very different than the stereotype the movie dictates her to be.
I know right? Like some dumb blonde could get into Harvard! Just like there's no way that Spongebob could actually cook food underwater and Harry Potter would SO have been expelled after breaking into the third floor room to get the Sorcerer's Stone! OH WAIT- It's media made to ENTERTAIN rather than to INFORM. If I wanted to watch a film about how to get into an Ivy League school I think I'd check their websites rather than a movie entitled 'Legally Blonde'. This post is almost insulting. As if people are stupid enough to not understand that this movie is unrealistic.
shareAccording to the OP, all intelligent people are unattractive, boring, and unpopular. Which is the skewed perception?
shareI sort of felt the same way as you, NOT because I didnt think Elle was not smart enough to get into Harvard, but a lot of the things that she did and said afterwards- in the REAL world, ppl would not have taken her seriously nor would they have had the patience to let her stick around long enough for her to prove her intelligence. That's all I'm saying.
shareWell despite having a high LSAT and a 4.0 she still might not have gotten into Harvard Law because the school only accepts like 900 applicants a year and thousands of people apply. They are very highly selective.
Celebrity couple nicknames=retarded
One of the first things I did (as an English law student) after watching this film was go and check out Harvard Law School's website to see if it's diversity policy was actually that broad. It seems that, in theory, it is!
This is what the applications page has to say:
Harvard Law School is the world’s premier center for legal education and research. Featuring a renowned faculty at the cutting edge of legal theory and practice, an exceptionally talented, energetic, and engaged student body drawn from across the nation and around the world, and a global network of distinguished alumni in all walks of public and private life, HLS is a vibrant and inclusive community in which to study law.
Each application is considered in its entirety, including transcripts, extracurricular and community activities, work experience, personal background, letters of recommendation, personal statement, LSAT score(s), and LSAT writing sample. Through individual consideration, the admissions committee seeks not only to identify individual characteristics that are important to academic success in law school, but also other qualities that promote vitality, diversity, and excellence in the student body. The committee uses no computational methods for making decisions and no “cut-offs” below which a candidate will not be considered. Each year we admit applicants who believed they didn't have a chance. You don't have to fit a certain mold to fit in at HLS.
Although the number of well-qualified candidates is expected to greatly exceed the number of offers of admission available, the Law School invites all who would like to study law at Harvard to apply for admission.
I went through the law school application process and I'm at an Ivy League law school (not Harvard) so I know something about this topic, and OP is way off base.
179 LSAT, 4.0 GPA places Elle above Harvard's 75th percentile in both those categories, even now, when it's slightly more competitive to get in than in 2001. Those numbers alone give her a great shot, as they are the most important pieces of information on the application. Her extracurriculars are fine and much better than what I had when I applied, and I'm the typical dorky law student stereotype. There are people at the top schools with Phd's, Rhodes Scholarships and Olympic medals, but most people came straight from undergrad and only have a bachelor's degree or are 1 or 2 years removed. The admissions boards care very little about what undergraduate institution you went to or your major, although engineers tend to get a small boost.
The video essay is an obvious bit of humor, but even if Elle was a mediocre writer, her numbers alone are enough to get her in.
Don't get the impression that all law school women are like the stereotypes portrayed in the movie, like Selma Blair's character or the feminist. I know plenty of females here who are into fashion, were sorority girls in college, love to go clubbing, don't talk like they've memorized the dictionary, whine about how their men don't treat them right, make sure they look good even for the 9 AM classes, dress slutty on Halloween, etc, etc. It doesn't mean they aren't intelligent, that they take the work any less seriously than the straight-laced types, or won't pull straight A's on their exams.
And I'd love to see the OP survive five seconds of Socratic Method questioning from a law school professor (although what they showed in the movie was more like straight cold-calling) without pissing himself. Most students get blindsided by a question once or twice a semester, it happens to everybody and doesn't mean anything once exams roll around.