Where'd they get all those hooker pamphlets? - Ocean's Eleven (2001) Discussion

[–] tukinator 16 years ago

Ever been to Vegas? lol

There is no shortage of those things.

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[–] JJandS 13 years ago

Lol, yeah, walking from Bills to Flamingo to try volcano nachos at Jimmy Buffets off tips on tripadvisor, my husband got like 50 cards, one of them is the Jayde Nicole special from her playboy pic offered at 35 bucks for "room service" lol!

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[–] Chuck345 16 years ago

The vault did not contain any money, it had hooker pamphlets in it. Some vaults in Las Vegas specialize in hooker flyer storage only. It is quite common actually.

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[–] indyhu 16 years ago

The fake SWAT team brought them down, to replace the money they took back up with them.

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[–] spam-1164 16 years ago

This isn't possible since the SWAT van only arrived after the van with the fliers in had already driven off.

There is no explanation for the fliers, it was a massive oversight by the filmmakers.

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[–] devo33 15 years ago

Remember they bought two vans. One took half the money, while the other was rigged with the "fake" money, remote control, etc. The goons followed the fake van when they spotted it heading towards the airport.

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[–] spam-1164 15 years ago

The bags with the pamphlets in were carried from the vault elevator to the remote controlled van tho. They were carried by casino staff and the van was empty before the bags were placed inside (you can see this in the shot of the camera watching them load the bags).

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[–] ilyathe2nd 15 years ago

Yes, yes, yes! And the plot of the movie, completely misunderstood by the way, wasn't to steal 160 million dollars, but 160 million hooker pamphlets. They're legal currency in Central America.

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[–] Jago_Instinct 15 years ago

No the fliers were a major plot hole, the SWAT team arrived after the pick up van so it wasn't in the SWAT van nor were they already in the vault.

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[–] roweethan 15 years ago

Soderburgh actually mentions this in the commentary and recognises it at a plot hole.

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[–] rocket26 15 years ago

What I didn't get after I watched this again today, was....

Where do the black bags go when Benedict and the "Swat Team" are down in the vault?

I don't see this in the goofs actually so I'm wondering if anybody saw this. I hadn't considered the oversight on the part of the filmmakers of how to get the hooker pamphlets down to the vault, but this just jumped out at me as a goof.

I mean, they use the explosive device when they're all down in the vault, but from then, until the bags leave the building when they're told to go, where do they get the bags from? Surely that many bags wouldn't go unnoticed....

Anybody wondered this before?

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[–] 1Notebookfan 14 years ago

It's too bad because I really love this movie and to have such a huge plot hole just bothers me.

What it an editing error? Was it meant to be that the swat team - bags filled with fliers - go down to the vault first, then the bags would be switched? No that wouldn't work either.....

What they should have done was just have the 80 mil in the van with the fliers that were already there and blown it all up. In the end they would only be splitting 80 mil but at least there wouldn't be the huge plot hole.

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[–] smoko 15 years ago

Your mom.

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[–] Pianohero4 14 years ago

Another plothole is that the events depicted in the film did not really occur in real life, but were created by writers for the sake of making a movie using the fictional story.

LOST SPOILERS , IN THE ENDINGit was about the characters and purgatory

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[–] nykm 12 years ago

Just re-watch the movies and find out the same.

Since someone mentioned the director actually admit it is a plot hole, then it is one.

IMO, it can be done, by hiding it in the vault before the action took place, like the way they send Amazing Yen into the vault. But that's a bigger work than breaking the vault itself, it's 6 big bags, which act as replacement for 80 millions dollars.

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[–] gregopego12 12 years ago

Spoiler alert!

I know the director admits to the plot hole "where do the big bags come from," but it never occurred to me to think of that when watching the movie. And, I've seen it about twenty times.
I always assumed that the swat team carried empty bags into the vault and had the flyers rigged with explosives pre arranged in the remote control van.
They load up the money
take the flyer bags out of the S.W.A.T. vehicle and put them into the white van (or, they're already there)
No one was watching the S.W.A.T. team, (they were bird-dogging the white van, though)
Then S.W.A.T. takes off with the money.
Why are they carrying bags after they announce something has been detonated? Would they have said it was physical evidence?
Shoot!
It's still a fun movie.

"take my breath away. . ."

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[–] findingdevotion 11 years ago

I don't really get why the director admits to a plot hole in that respect.

I know the movie isn't explicit about it, but in my interpretation the flyers never had to be in the room.

1 - the video in "the vault" was filmed beforehand in the replica vault they built, so the stuff they showed there wasn't in the actual vault.

2 - to display the burned bills in the vault, they only needed so much paper (in a real explosion, much is vaporized anyway, so you need soot + a little burned paper). They could have brought to the vault just a little bit for show.

3 - when the casino guys descend (before the SWAT came) to pick up the flyers to put in the other van, they never go into the vault. The bags with flyers could have been (or should have been) put there beforehand (stored in some vents or the elevator shafts) and the three guys that actually go in the vault at first could have simply retrieved them and put them in the elevator for the goons to pick up.

4 - the van couldn't have been pre-arranged with the flyers, the goons take the bags and put them inside, they see it was empty and on Benedict's orders they never take their eyes off it.

I think the best explanation (off-screen) would be that the bags had been planted in the elevator shafts and then retrieved before the show.

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