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Things that bother me...


this is one of my favorite movies, but these things still bother me:

- outside the bank robbery failure, Rusty (as an ATF agent) appears and says "booby traps aren't his style," then seconds later, he asks the officer if he has searched Basher's body for any booby traps on his person.

- Virgil and Turk change out of their room service uniforms in the elevator, and leave them on the elevator floor. There are cameras in the elevator, and someone would see those clothes and dishes.

- picking up the plane ticket at the pub in Chicago was definitely not a better pull than the guy's wallet on the train.

- and all the mistakes in the Goofs section.

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About Linus' pull...
I always interpreted Dannys line "That's the best pull I've seen you do yet" as meaning "the smartest move" he had done so far.

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I had the same thought you had with regard to the uniforms in the elevator.

I agree that if they indeed had left the clothes and dishes in the elevator, someone would have noticed sooner or later (probably sooner) and the alarm would have been raised at that point.

I have come up with a narrative workaround that would explain that plot hole away.

If we assume they can fake the video feeds to the monitors in the security control center, then there is no reason to assume they could not have hacked into any cameras installed in the elevator.

If so, they they could have easily run a fake feed of an empty elevator to the monitor in the security control center. Anyone watching would assume they're looking at an empty elevator.

Here is how I think that whole sequence of events went down.

1) Virgil and Turk get in the elevator wearing their white "Room Service" uniforms we see them wearing when they bring the "food tray" in through the back entrance of the casino and up to the hotel room.

2) They either have under their white uniforms the brown "Service Employees" uniforms or have those uniforms stashed in the "food tray". In any case, they change out of their white uniforms and into the other uniforms we see them wearing when they bring the "tray full of valuable stuff" to the vault elevator.

3) Once they have delivered the "tray" to the guys guarding the elevator to the vault, they walk away (as we see them do in the movie) and then go back to the other elevator where they then put on their other uniforms.

This all would have taken around two or three minutes to accomplish, and since Danny Ocean told them to watch what was going on around the casino, they would have figured out how often that elevator was used, who used it most, when it was being used, and basically when they would have had the optimal time to pull off the uniform switch.

In other words, if no one was watching that elevator and/or using it during those two or three minutes, the twins would have gotten away with the uniform thing without anyone noticing anything odd or amiss (like uniforms left behind in the elevator.

Put even simpler: the twins didn't leave their old uniforms alone for very long, basically gambling that no one would see those uniforms during the two or three (or whatever) minutes those uniforms were sitting on the floor of the elevator.

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"- picking up the plane ticket at the pub in Chicago was definitely not a better pull than the guy's wallet on the train." Danny was touching the plane ticket at the time. It's much easier to take something from a pocket than remove something with skin contact, purely for the fact that the target is understandably more likely to feel it. The wallet was actually a relatively simple move, especially for a highly skilled pickpocket: distract the target by bumping into him and quickly get the wallet - if he feels any pull on his jacket as the wallet is being removed, he'll brush it off as an effect of the bodily contact that was already occurring. Linus had no physical contact with Danny to mask the theft while he took the ticket and Danny's hand was shown to be firmly covering it (hence Danny's confused look down at his hand on the table when he sees Linus holding the ticket). Linus had quite literally a split second of distraction time while Danny was signalling for the cheque to make the pull, and not only did he do it but he did it without Danny noticing that he'd done it.

The others I agree with you on, especially the second. That always bugged me since it would be relatively easy to show one of the gang getting into the elevator as Turk and Virgil get out of it and gathering up the uniforms...

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