Funny review of GG
"RORY IS THE WORST HUMAN"share
Sure, she’s the Stars Hollow golden child - the azure-eyed angel who picks books over boys and poops out her coffee in tiny nuggets of gold.
All true and yet I still love the show!
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Nice article; enjoyed the brutal honesty (on most points). No time to hit every point right now, so I'll just mention that I personally disagree about Michel being gay. If he's gay, he's sort of a boring stock character: the man who seems to care too much about clothes and grooming and gets kind of bitchy sometimes. Yawn. I think he's a much more interesting character if he's not gay and that's just how he is as a person... who might potentially want a relationship with a woman but admittedly gives off some confusing signals.
On the issue of gay-dissing in general: no, the author's not wrong. But people forget (or don't realize, if they're very young) how quickly the culture has changed on LGBTQ issues. And that's good - I'm glad we're living in a world where fewer people are ridiculed for that or any other reason. But just 15 years ago, that was just how a lot of people talked. Even if you had no real problem with gay people, you might make little jokes at their expense. It wasn't a good thing, but people just kind of did it without meaning to be cruel. Anyway, that's how it was, so it's not really fair to single out Gilmore Girls. But it is interesting to notice how quickly that kind of talk has come to seem dated and wrong.
This is quite harsh. There are a lot of truth in it but also quite a bit emotional bias as well.
Rory has been a bit spoiled and I blame mostly Lorelai for that. To think what Rory did: stealing, two-timing, sleeping with married men, all very disappointing and with little remorse.
Lorelai run away from controlling parents, which I understand. Though disregarding her infant daughter's welfare makes me far less sympathetic of her actions.
Lane'd future is sad but more realistic. Just think what would have happened to Rory without grandparents' money and lawyer.
I think the gay comments are also realistic, we can't always pretend we are living in an Utopian society. The show shows it as it is without obvious political agenda. I really hate when people criticize shows that not advocating their political agenda, show makers have no obligations to do that, their only obligation is to make good shows. And these politics could only ruin good shows.
A cynic is what an idealist calls a realist - Sir Humphrey Appleby
I really hate when people criticize shows that not advocating their political agenda, show makers have no obligations to do that, their only obligation is to make good shows. And these politics could only ruin good shows.
Noticing social injustice is not a 'political agenda'. It just takes some intelligence, empathy and thinking outside the socially established box. I was criticizing the Bible at 7-8 y.o. for its sexism without ever having heard of feminism, because the text just did not seem fair.
As for the homophobic jokes - are you seriously saying that GG would be less of a show without them? Six Feet Under was on at the same time as GG, and it featured the most realistic portrayal of a gay couple I've ever seen on TV and not a single gay dig. ASP was already behind the times on this even 16 years back.
I actually think that the 'very, very gay' remark by Jackson is progressive because it laughs at the stereotype of him needing to be gay in order to enjoy 'girly' things. In fact that whole ep laughs at Sookie's rigid perceptions of gender when she tries to redecorate her house in a 'more masculine' fashion. share
Most of the people into politics are either dirty bags or imbeciles. Every time I hear people talking about "fairness" I want to vomit. What is fairness? If you are not a hypocrite then come out and say it:"I want the world to behave the way I'd like"
Anyway I have very little interest to entertain a self-righteous social justice warrior with clearly bloated ego, there have to be better ways to use my time.
A cynic is what an idealist calls a realist - Sir Humphrey Appleby
I love this show a lot, but I also criticize it a lot due to over-analyzing.
What this article does is a very one-sided criticism. You can't call Rory entitled and Lorelai childish (and rightfully so!), and not measure Emily by the same standards. More than once it's Lorelai who reaches out her hand to her mother, and she gets nothing but a cold response. It takes two to be childish: The one who behaves childish, and the one who treats them like a child. Emily made Lorelai go on a date just not to be ousted from the DAR. Who does that to their grown child? If you criticize characters on a show, you have to do it for all of them who deserve it, not just pick the ones you don't like.
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I agree that they assassinated Lane's character the moment she fell for Zach. What the hell happened to Dave? Did the actor get cast somewhere else?
Both the character and the actress that played Lane was always more dynamic than Rory, and deserved so much better. I'd have loved to see her band become a moderately successful indie rock band.
Lane and Dave were great. And yes, he actually got a role on The OC, hence the joke in the show that Dave went to California. :) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362359/?ref_=nv_sr_1
shareI agree with most of it except maybe 3 I mean Lane might have started out as a token ethnic side kick character but she got more screen time as the show went on and her and Rory had drifted apart so much by the later seasons that she was really the star of her own narrative and her journey was huge. I know that a lot of people would say that Lane's life ended up sad and disappointing but I disagree Lane became independent and she made all her own choices maybe people don't like that she ended up with Zac but he was who made her happy and she chose him. Lane didn't go to a fancy college or become a rockstar but she was living in the real world unlike Rory who had everything handed to her. I mean I wonder who will be happier when the new show comes out? I bet its Lane.
shareReally like this take. I've never quite agreed with the idea that Lane is a tragic character, although I do agree Zach is only one step above an ape. But let's not forget Lane was the one who initiated the relationship - and for whatever reason, being with him actually does seem to make her happy. That has to count for something.
As for immediately having twins, let's not be too quick to assume that's a dead-end to Lane's life. Just look at Lorelai: Having a kid certainly wasn't a dead-end to HER life, and she was single and 16. You can be a mother and still be a vibrant, creative, exciting person. (I would add that motherhood itself has been known to bring some people a lot of joy.)
I also think some people are a little too sure about what kind of life Lane SHOULD be living. Most kids in rock bands don't make it as successful career musicians - though they can still have a good time jamming with their pals on weekends, and hey, Lane can still do that. But for most, the "rock band" phase is just a step along the way. That's not a tragedy.
I'm with you on your prediction. I think Lane will be happy with her life in the revival, and Rory will be the one still trying to figure it all out. Not that there's anything wrong with that - sometimes the "figuring out" parts are what make life interesting. But I do think Rory will be looking over at Lane and kind of wishing she could be that happy and put-together.
As for immediately having twins, let's not be too quick to assume that's a dead-end to Lane's life. Just look at Lorelai: Having a kid certainly wasn't a dead-end to HER life, and she was single and 16. You can be a mother and still be a vibrant, creative, exciting person. (I would add that motherhood itself has been known to bring some people a lot of joy.)
I also think some people are a little too sure about what kind of life Lane SHOULD be living. Most kids in rock bands don't make it as successful career musicians - though they can still have a good time jamming with their pals on weekends, and hey, Lane can still do that. But for most, the "rock band" phase is just a step along the way. It's not a tragedy.
All this I mean look at Lorelai and Gil Lorelai found what she wanted to do while she raised Rory and she worked her way up to gain experience she went to business school and she became the owner or her own beautiful Inn. I mean Lane could still do something in music although I don't see being a rock star in her future but it's still a possibility maybe she will want to open a music store be a producer or start a label? Maybe she will be more like Gil and do something else and keep music as a hobby. I mean we don't look at Gil and his sandwich shop and his happy little family and think ugh what a poor loser how did his life turn out like that? share
I mean we don't look at Gil and his sandwich shop and his happy little family and think ugh what a poor loser how did his life turn out like that?
Gil is an awesome, AWESOME character. My favourite moment of his is when he says to a pastor that if Jesus decided to come back, he'd want to rock with the pastor because he is so cool share
OMGOsh that is great! So many things bug me about L&R. But it wouldn't be an interesting show without all their flaws!
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