Ironically, a deleted scene/rumored scene was Charlie's failed "book report" that he didn't turn in was just that, the events of 4-6 and Laurie leaves crying @ Jamie's fate...but thankfully it got pulled.
I am a bit of a purist, so I go with 4's age of Jamie over 5 since 4 obviously came out first. 5 should've come out in 1990. Anyway, in 4, Rachel states Jamie is a 7 year old insomniac. Meaning she was born in 1981 before Oct. 30th. Jamie then says that it's been 11 months since Laurie and her husband aka Jamie's Dad "died".
H20's whole plot was set around Laurie being 17 when Michael came after her and John also being 17 in 1998 (Judith was not 17 when she died thanks to her headstone date in the original). So that means John was also born in 1981, and the card being 2 months late means August. So John and Jamie were born in the same year. Impossible if they aren't twins. Then Jamie lived with Laurie from 1981-987 (11 months prior to H4) so John and Jamie both would've been aware of each other's existence for quite a few years.
Just doesn't work. Then Loomis, who hid Laurie, according to H20, but in 4 Jamie acted like she never met him before, but Loomis was obviously aware of her existence, just not her location.
So bottom line, it's too complicated to try and explain it all logistically. And big if they both Laurie and Loomis knew of the separation it would make them both look like horrible people for living that lie. Total character assassination. Laurie and John safe in CA while Jamie is lamb to the slaughter? Not good.
So best to let it go. As I said, time, story and real life and character deaths make any kind of backstory difficult. Returns almost did it by going 18 years after II, which is okay, still is the past. Now, who knows where they'll lead from. But no family, no Loomis recast and Michael doing what he does best.
"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN
reply
share
apriloish
8 years ago
every problem you listed could still be easily explained with a few flashbacks or lines of dialogue as for making the characters look bad again that also can easily be wrote around all you have to do is make it were louri had to leave one child because she was forced to all you have to do is say that she had to fake her death an the father was the one who forced her to let him keep her an he told her the mom died all you have to do is say the father diddnt want to go along with it then he separated from lauri an went into hiding himself an he left the child jamie with foster care an by the time lauri found out she was dead lauri would have thought myers was dead an if she believed the other myers sightings were copy cats then that explains it as for loomis he was all ways off slightly in the head an him keeping louris secret to the grave is very easy to believe all you need is a few scenes to bring it
reply
share
dave626
8 years ago
I just don't see that working. Even after the father "died" Loomis knew Laurie was alive. No reason to keep them apart of the father died. His wishes are no longer valid. Even so, John and Jamie would know each other, but yet never mentioned the other in either film. It's very complicated, very damning to the characters which is why the creative forces have not even tried to connect them in the last 20 years. If they can't do it, we fans sure can't. We can try and believe what we want and write/talk around it, but making it work in a movie 20 years later is harder than that. It's a moot point anyway, since all the principal characters, Laurie and Jamie and the actors who played John and Molly aren't coming back. No way to find them, unlike Laurie and her file. So both 4-6 and H20-8 are effectively dead ends.
"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN
reply
share
apriloish
8 years ago
i get why you would say you dont see that working its a little bit of a stretch but it would work because well lets be honest this is horror an by the 7 sequel most people wouldnt pick the plot that much it could easily work all a movie needs is good actors to sell it if a actor can make you believe it then thats all that matters question is would you want them in trhe same timeline
reply
share