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The One Thing That I Didn't Like...


Let me just preface this by saying that I watched this on DVD right after finishing reading the original novel and I was amazed by how well this movie follows Dickens' original story. Also, I love Patrick Stewart's performance as Scrooge.
That said, there is one thing that disappoints me with this movie: How come Scrooge never goes back to the charity gentlemen to make his donation? I always felt that that was one of the most important post-ghost scenes that shows how much Scrooge has changed.

007 [Regarding Max Zorin] - We played bridge together...He lost. (Everything or Nothing)

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I made an error. The original novel does indeed include a scene where the reformed Scrooge meets one of the charity collectors and proceeds to give him a large number of 'back-payments.'
The only scene it did miss out (which appears in the original text and in the 1984 George C Scott version) is the one where Scrooge's lost love Belle, is seen with her husband and large brood, which after seeing this is the last straw for Scrooge and proceeds to extinguish the Ghost of Christmas Past, played here brilliantly by the excellent Joel Grey.

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I had forgotten about the additional scene with Belle and her husband, which was also a good scene. But, if the other scene doesn't appear in the novel, then how come in my version it says:

"He [Scrooge] had not gone far, when coming on towards him he beheld the portly gentleman, who had walked into his counting-house the day before, and said, 'Scrooge and Marley's, I believe?' It sent a pang across his heart to think how this old gentleman would look upon him when they met; but he knew what path lay straight before him, and he took it.
'My dear sir,' said Scrooge, quickening his pace, and taking the old gentleman by both his hands. 'How do you do? I hope you succeeded yesterday. It was very kind of you. A merry Christmas to you, sir!'
'Mr Scrooge?'
'Yes,' said Scrooge. 'That is my name, and I fear it may not be pleasant to you. Allow me to ask your pardon. And will you have the goodness --' here Scrooge whispered in his ear.
'Lord bless me!' cried the gentleman, as if his breath were gone. 'My dear Mr Scrooge, are you serious?'
'If you please,' said Scrooge. 'Not a farthing less. A great many back-payments are included in it, I assure you. Will you do me that favour?'
'My dear sir,' said the other, shaking hands with him. 'I don't know what to say to such munifi--'
'Don't say anything, please,' retorted Scrooge. 'Come and see me. Will you come and see me?'
'I will!' cried the old gentleman. And it was clear he meant to do it.
'Thank 'ee,' said Scrooge. 'I am much obliged to you. I thank you fifty times. Bless you!'"

This is according to both the Barnes & Noble Classics printing and the version found online at Literature.org (exact address is http://www.literature.org/authors/dickens-charles/christmas-carol/chapter-05.html)


007 [Regarding Max Zorin] - We played bridge together...He lost. (Everything or Nothing)

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Well done, in quoting this wonderful scene from the novel....it also does not appear in the classic Alastair Sim version, unfortunately, which is my only quibble with that otherwise fine job.

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Yep, that scene does appear in the 1984 version and the Muppet version...but for some reason the scene with Bell and her ultimate husband is only in the 1984 version. However, I believe the scene in which a family is happy for Scrooge to be dead is only in this 1999 version.

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The Scene you mentioned is also in the Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol where he Meets up with the Charity collector after his Transformation. But over all the 1999 Version is still my Favorite of one of my Favorite Christmas Stories/Movies. Would rather be straped in a chair and forced to watch the Worse Version of Christmas Carol then be foreced to watch "Its a wonderful Life"

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They do include the scene of Belle's family in An American Christmas Carol which is actually rather good too.

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I agree that this and the 1951 version are the most faithful adaptations. The scene you mention doesn't appear in the 1951 version either but it does appear in both the 1938 and the 1984 versions. It would have been nice to see it included but it doesn't bother me overly much. One of the scenes I think I pay a little less attention to.

I do take respect this version a lot for being the only version that includes Caroline and her husband.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm doing a Jimmy Stewart imitation myself - James Stewart

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This version has where Scrooge goes into the church and sings a bit before going on to Freds. I don't remember this scene in the others. Maybe they use the seeing the charity men in the other versions instead of the church scene here.

Why don't they have "The Making Of....." included with all the latest dvd's these days, maybe we'd not have to ask so many questions and just enjoy the story!! But then we'd only be somewhere else asking other questions, wouldn't we??


"Go back to your oar, Forty One."

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In the Muppet Christmas Carol Scrooge does indeed see Dr Bunsen and Beaker (playing the charity men) and says "put me down for" then leans in and whispers in Beakers ear then you see BEakers shocked expression.

So it has been portrayed at least once

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Probably due to time constraints.

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Nothing beats seeing Patrick Stewart doing this live on stage.... nothing!

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"Probably due to time constraints."

If that's the case, they should have cut out some of the scenes that they added or expanded from the original text so they could have put this scene in. It's pretty important. Certainly more important than hearing one of the partygoers singing about how shy he is or seeing Scrooge at Marley's funeral (not in the book at all).




“Hmm . . . well, it needs work. I have to go.”

*slams door*

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I agree, I don't think time constraints were an issue, as there was a lot of extra stuff added into the movie that are not in other versions.

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This is one important element sorely missing. Especially as the whole point about the poor is driven home to Scrooge several times.

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