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Making sense of it (spoilers) . . .


Having watched this perhaps a half dozen times, and thought about it, it seems possible to connect one thread with another . . .

When Chow is writing with the Faye Wong character, he mentions, as narrator, several things, one being that he would now and then make an excuse to stop by her workplace and offer her a ride home. In showing a scene of him doing that, she declines his offer.

All the while, Wong's character is in love with a Japanese man.

At another point, he says that period -- writing with the Faye Wong character -- was "the happiest summer of my life".

Subsequently, Chow imagines himself as a Japanese man, in the future, and in that sequence is in love with the android played by Faye Wong. And Chow, as the Japanese narrator, "concludes" that perhaps it wasn't that she didn't like him, but that instead she was in love with someone else.

Which seems to be something of a resolution -- if only attempted -- of Chow's dilemma about whether the woman in "In the Mood for Love" really loved him. Or was it not that she didn't like him, but perhaps was in love with another man . . .

Accidentally missed a point connecting the threads:

1. Faye Wong's character is in love with a Japanese man.

2. Chow doesn't say it, but his making excuses to pick her up at work means he is interested in more of a relationship with her. That she says <b>no</b> says she doesn't want more of a relationship with him -- that emphasizes that she is in love with another man (the Japanese man).

3. Chow does say that she and he writing together was "the happiest summer of my life". If that were true, then it supercedes his relationship with the woman in "In the Mood for Love". But he doesn't say that which appears obvious: that he fell in love with her.

4. He imagines himself as a Japanese man, in the future; and as the Japanese man, he's in love with the android that is Faye Wong . . .

5. As the Japanese man in love with the Faye Wong android he puzzles it out: "Perhaps it wasn't that her mechanism was worn out" (androids are "immortal," except for the wearing out of the mechanical); "perhaps it was that she was in love with another man". . .

6. Well, yes: While Chow and Faye Wong knew each other, and they were writing together, he fell in love with her -- but she was in love with a another man; the Japanese man . . .

(She does say she likes the "2046" story, but that the ending is too sad, and wonders if he can change it to make it happier. He says he'll try, but sits for many hours -- many, many hours -- without writing anything. He doesn't change it; can't change it: it's reality as he experiences it, and he can't see any happier way to experience it.)

Meanwhile, Zhang Ziyi's character is in love with him, but he's in love with someone else . . .

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Yeah, it seemed to me that the movie was all about Chow dealing with the failed affair from In The Mood For Love. Initially he ended his book with something along the lines of "2046 is the place where past memories are accessed, but no one knows this, because no one has ever returned. Except me." Chow admits that his books mirror his life, so from this we can assume that his leaving of 2046 represents his moving on from the only real love he ever had (with the girl from ITMFL). However, Faye Wong told him his ending was too sad, so he changed it. The final words of the film are the ending of the story and are the same as the previous ending, but with the one difference: that he doesn't say that he left 2046. In other words, he holds on to the beauty of his past affair instead of trying to overcome the pain by letting himself be "borrowed". That's what i thought the final scene with the girl was about. He didn't want any more meaningless, casual flings in which he didn't get attached to avoid getting hurt again. Then there's the final tracking shot in on that tree like thing (representing the hole that holds his secret). To me at least, this shot implied that Chow had found something extremely beautiful with the girl from ITMFL and he would never let that go. Though they didn't end up together, they still loved each other, it was just bad timing (like what Chow was talking about).

A very beautiful ending i thought.

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Nicely put ;-) I came on this board to find an answer to the very same question. It struck me that he had never left 2046.

In the first scene when he uttered the words "Except me", he thought he was the only one who had left 2046. However no one could ever leave the their past behind; he was forever on the train that he thought he was leaving 2046. Of course he forgot/didn't realize 2046 itself is a ever-going train journey, each of us on a lonely train journey with no one else on board aside from the androids which are not really alive but symbolizing our impressions/imprints/memories of our friends. In the last scene he learnt not to run away from the memories and instead to treasure the past. It is a beautiful ending.

Now is that new ending he wrote on Faye's request? Or the endin Faye preferred to change?

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Great posts, bananacharlie and scheng.

Chow's development was truly fascinating. At the beggining of the film, from his narration, it seems he believes himself to have left 2046. In other words, that he has let go of his past. His actions contradict that statement however, as he keeps lending his heart to women solely because he hopes to fill the void left by ITMFL's Su Li-zhen (Maggie). Each of the three women he spends time with in this movie mirror an aspect of his relationship with her. Gong Li's character shares her name, Zhang Ziyi's the room they meet in and Faye Wong's the time spent co-writing martial arts novels.

Through the enlightening experiences with these particular women, Chow realizes that he never truly left 2046, but also that that isn't really something to be sad about, for the past should be treasured, not erased. Telling Bai Ling at the end of the movie that there's something he won't let anyone borrow concludes his character arc, and rather poignantly I might add.

If you compare his two states of being, you clearly see he has at last chosen the right path.

In the beggining of the movie, he claims to have left his past behind, yet keeps "lending" his heart to women in relationships without real meaning or attachment so he can, in a way, re-live the past.

At the end of the movie, he's aware that the past still lives on with him, but he's through hurting others and himself in futile and superficial attempts to rekindle it. As the previous posters said, the past is not something for one to run away from, but to accept. And of course, treasure the joyful memories, bittersweet though as they might be in the present.

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Very weird post, imo, jnagarya-1. You're saying things that are obvious and explicit in the film, so there's not much to figure out, and you keep repeating yourself. You keep going over the same points you "figured out". The same information is given again and again.


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I keep repeating myself? Have you seen the film?

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Whether you keep repeating yourself has something to do with the film?

lol


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The film represents neurotic repetitions.

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lol that come back made me laugh

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The posts in this thread are so good and so touching, I thought its only appropriate to bump them and help others like me trying to understand this great film.

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