How does Turkish convince Mickey to fight? - Snatch (2001) Discussion

[–] ryerockarola 13 years ago

Yeah it was because BrickTop had his men kill Mickey's mom. If I recall correctly asides from showing up at the gypsy site the day(?) after Mickey's mom died Turkish really didn't even convince Mickey to fight. Mickey simply said he'd do the fight before there was any more carnage (any more people Mickey knew got hurt or killed)

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[–] MardyBum_123 13 years ago

Mickey wanted revenge for his Mam and planned it for after the fight

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[–] jmhow 12 years ago

He knew he could bet on himself and win by not throwing the fight when he was "supposed" to. Revenge for his mam's murder was a bonus, claiming he was doing it so no more would be hurt was a way to convince the others that that was his main or only reason.

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[–] king_of_bob 11 years ago

Turkish didn't convince him. Mickey specifically says "I'll do the fight before ya cause us anymore carnage."

It was partially because his mother was killed, but mostly because he wanted revenge on Bricktop and his goons for the death of his mother.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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[–] smoko 11 years ago

@king_of_bob Just to clarify, Mickey says, "...before he causes us any more carnage." Mickey blamed Brick Top, not Turkish.

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[–] king_of_bob 11 years ago

It doesn't really matter. At that point Mickey had already come up with his plan, he was going to do the fight regardless of what Turkish said or offered.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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[–] smoko 11 years ago

@king_of_bob It matters a little bit. If Mickey blamed Turkish in any way for his mother's death, then Turkish would've met the same fate as Brick Top.

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[–] king_of_bob 11 years ago

I didn't say he blamed Turkish. I never said a single word about blaming Turkish. My first reply makes it pretty clear that I'm saying Mickey blamed Bricktop.

but mostly because he wanted revenge on Bricktop and his goons for the death of his mother.

If I were suggesting Mickey blamed Turkish, I would have said "Wanted revenge on Turkish."

I know where your confusion is, though. Even if he said "Ya(Turkish)" instead of "He(Bricktop)" it wouldn't mean he blamed Turkish for what Bricktop did. But the fact is, if Turkish hadn't been trying to recruit Mickey to fight, his mother wouldn't have been burned to death. So technically, Turkish would have brought the carnage on them by approaching Mickey to fight in the first place. It was an unseen consequence of the entire situation.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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[–] smoko 11 years ago

@king_of_bob But why do you think that Mickey blamed Turkish?

Nah, just kidding. We get it, you didn't say that Mickey blamed Turkish. Just clarifying what Mickey said, it wasn't an attack on your understanding of the plot or anything.

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[–] mikeyg24 9 years ago

While we're being picky I was sure he said 'before it causes any more carnage' as in Mickey blames the fight itself.

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[–] dlancer 11 years ago

Technically, he didn't convince Mickey to fight. Mickey and the gypsies devised a plan to get back at Brick Top for the murder of Mickey's mother.

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[–] mikeyg24 11 years ago

burning inside her new caravan while she was sleeping in the middle of the night

What new caravan? That was the point of burning her out. Micky wanted a new caravan, Brick Top wasn't buying it and so burnt her in the old one. If she got the new caravan he would have fought you pleb.

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[–] mikeyg24 11 years ago

If you'd be so kind to find it in your good graces

No! In future pay attention to movies and you won't make silly comments.

Your's sincerely, General Joseph Liebgott

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[–] Public-Enemy-01 10 years ago

Well you certainly are a strange, weirdo of a person. And I find it amusing that your paragraphs of 'humour' received the attention it deserved, despite all your effort...nada.

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[–] Lothar_Quint 11 years ago

He offered him Angelina Jolie.

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[–] jeginvest 10 years ago

You also need to understand that Mickey had been betting on himself the WHOLE time, he had a vested interest in fighting.

He had already planned a revenge to kill Bricktop and all his ilk.

The ones that are not accounted for in the end are the Mob/drug bosses who Bricktop cow tow to in the scene where he nicks the nuts of the guy who "stop me when I am walking...and I will cut your jackobs off".

They are the really heavy hitters, the equivalent for the Mafia in England.

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