Why is brick top angry?
Talking about after the first fight, why is he angry at Turkish? It isn't his fault that brick tops fighter can't take a single punch.
He should be mad at Bomber for being a little pussy.
You couldn't have missed the point more if you tried. Bricktop didn't give a shiny *beep* who could give or take a punch. This wasn't boxing for him, it was fight fixing, it was business. Mickey was supposed to go down in the fourth to make a pile of cash for 'the suits'. He didn't go down, Turkish was his promoter and who says he wasn't mad at Bomber?
<i>24/04/1916</I>
I haven't missed the point of the movie, you've missed the point of my post.
Of course it was about fight fixing, yes, Mickey should go down in the fourth, and if the 4th round had happened, and Mickey didn't go down, then Brick top would have a reason to be angry.
But that's not what happened.
Remember that in order to get to the 4th round, first they have to fight for three rounds. And not some pussy play fighting that doesn't convince anyone, ACTUAL fighting.
There are several scenarios where Brick Top could be reasonably angry at Mickey:
If Mickey sucked and wasn't able to last 4 rounds.
If Mickey went 4 rounds and didn't go down.
If Mickey fought like a little bitch and was unconvincing.
And arguably, if Mickey fought so AMAZINGLY well for say 2 rounds, that it was simply impossible for Bomber to make it to round 4, because that would show he was actively not going along with Brick Top.
But that's not what happened.
What did happen is that Mickey threw one *beep* punch and Bomber went down like a bitch.
That's not Mickeys fault, how is he supposed to know Bomber is a little bitch that can't take a single punch.
Turkish should have been mad at Brick Top instead "what the hell was that Brick Top? Your boys made out of glass or what? If you want to win in the 4th round, select a *beep* player that can make it to the *beep* fourth!".
And Brick Top, should feed Bomber to the *beep* pigs for screwing up the deal he had with Turkish.
Sorry, he's right. You didn't just miss the point of the scene, you missed the point of the MOVIE.
Mickey knocked the guy out on PURPOSE. How you could miss this simple fact is baffling.
He was betting on himself to win, Knowing that Bricktop had loaded the odds against that.
Mickey is presented in this film as an impossibly tough, hard-as-nails pikey boxer who can. . .wait for it. . .knock out ANYONE with One Punch.
So that's what he did. Not because the other fighter is a chump, but because that's who Mickey is.
Get it?
"Personally I hope they make all the gods black and change it from Valhalla to Valholla!"
No, he's not right, and I didn't miss the point of the movie, you, like him, are missing the point of my post.
I know Mickey knocked him out on purpose, I know this is the point of the movie, I know that if this didn't happen, we wouldn't have a movie.
What I am saying is that this does not make sense in the movie universe.
WE know Mickey did it on purpose, sure, because we are movie viewers and have extra information. Brick Top does NOT know that Mickey screwed him on purpose. All Bricktop knows is that Mickey threw one punch and his fighter went down.
Brick Top is not a mind reader, he doesn't know *beep* about what Mickey wanted to do.
From his point of view, all he sees is a fighter doing his job, fighting, as far as he knows, Mickey knocked Bomber out by accident. As far as Brick Top knows, there is no reason to assume that Mickey wasn't fully planning on putting up a good fight until round 4 and then go down, as he was supposed to.
Again, if Mickey had completely outclassed Bomber for several rounds, THEN Brick Top could assume Mickey had beaten Bomber on purpose, but not with one punch. These people should have been able to fight on par if the match WERE REAL (as far as Bricktop knows atleast). Mickey shouldn't be able to knockout bomber like that even if it were real (from the point of Bricktop), that's why it's unreasonable for him to blame Mickey for it, because it's not reasonable to think Mickey WANTED to do that, because it's unreasonable to think he could do that even IF he wanted to.
Pretty obviously, from Bricktops viewpoint, Mickey just threw a punch like he normally would while fighting, and then Bomber goes down like a little bitch.
The reason I keep repeating "from Bricktops view", is because you don't seem to understand that people can talk about a person from their point of view, and not my own, since you keep pretending that I missed the point of the movie, when that obviously isn't the case. I am not talking about ME, I am talking about Bricktop.
Mickey knocked the guy out on PURPOSE. How you could miss this simple fact is baffling.
Ofcourse I didn't miss that, what is really baffling is how you missed the fact that I obviously DIDN'T miss that.
Mickey is presented in this film as an impossibly tough, hard-as-nails pikey boxer who can. . .wait for it. . .knock out ANYONE with One Punch.
And Brick Top doesn't know that. Get it? share
(I know this was 4 years so it's probably pointless replying now, but...)
Whether to punish Turkish and Tommy for potentially screwing up the fight in the first place by allowing their previously agreed fighter (Gorgeous George) to become unable to fight or whether he had always intended it no matter who the fighter was, Brick Top wants to fix the fight so that Bomber wins. He tells Turkish and Tommy he desires this outcome when they tell him that they're replacing George with Mickey, clearly expecting them to pass on the message to Mickey. And Turkish tells Brick Top before the fight that he has passed on the message. Brick Top is the one with all the power in this relationship - Turkish and Tommy are small-time promoters, Brick Top is the one who runs the fights and the bets and he's the one with a penchant for feeding those who disappoint him to his pigs. In other words, whatever Brick Top says goes.
So when Mickey not only doesn't go down in the fourth but knocks out Bomber with a single punch (which absolutely no one would believe was an accident), after Turkish had assured Brick Top that Mickey was going to do as he was told, it's perfectly understandable why Brick Top is so angry at Turkish and Mickey because, from his point of view, either (1) Turkish was lying to him about having told Mickey what should happen, (2) Turkish, Tommy and Mickey are all working together to try and screw him over, or (3) Turkish gave him a fight with a completely unpredictable fighter who chose to ignore Brick Top's wishes. Either way, Brick Top feels that he got completely screwed over and the only new variables in the chain of events that led to him getting screwed over are Turkish, Tommy and Mickey. Presumably, he wouldn't blame Bomber since Bomber would have known he was supposed to win and presumed Mickey would have known that too, therefore not anticipating the knockout punch (and a punch of that force or anything close to it should never have occurred from Mickey)
This doesn't make sense.
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