Ironic


With the fight scene in the beginning they expose the two main characters as low life scum bags.

Then they spend the rest of the movie showing how they were the most honorable people in the whole move.

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Ya think? I don't think ANYone is honorable in this film. There's just levels of dishonor.


"I'd never ask you to trust me. It's the cry of a guilty soul."

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My point is; they were then nicest guys in the whole movie. The only ones with any semblance of honor.

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Yeah, I got your point. But I disagree. Everyone is honorable/dishonorable in turn.

Robin just wants to help her father, that's honorable. Her father just wants to protect his daughter, that's honorable. Chidduck wants to give his son a second chance. His son, Painter, just wants to go away with the woman he loves. Abner wants to help his friend. The bodyguards want to do their job. There's a lot of switching of sympathy in this film. It's tough to completely hate or like anyone.



"I'd never ask you to trust me. It's the cry of a guilty soul."

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aGuiltySoul, there's a flipside to each of those.

Robin is selling her baby for money, and deceiving the parents to be about who the real father is.

Sarno offered up his daughter to his employer to use as a baby factory, god knows what else he's done for Chidduck over the years.

Painter decides to knock up the surrogate because she's not getting pregnant and needs the payday (and in turn is going to make his father raise his son).

Abner is a total screw up who had nothing else to do. He's probably the closest thing to an honorable person in the movie though.

The bodyguards are trying to kill the kidnappers, kidnapee, and anyone else who might get in the way so that they can steal their employer's ransom money.

Some of the characters find god in their respective foxholes, but some are consistently evil and unrepentant (Obeks, Jeffers, Chidduck, Francesca). Longbaugh and Parker didn't even reform. They were re-kidnaping Robin from Jeffers, not saving her. Sure, they decided to leave her alone eventaully, but who in that situation would think she was going to survive when they left her?

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Exactly my point, house head. No one is honorable, but that's not to say we aren't sympathetic, before they prove their villainy once again. Christopher McQuarrie said in the DVD commentary that he wanted to create a film with no heroes.

"I'd never ask you to trust me. It's the cry of a guilty soul."

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