Something I don't quite understand - The Replacements (2000) Discussion

[–] bjchit-1 18 years ago

I think the owner pulled rank with him.

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[–] richardpaperboy 18 years ago

Martell was the best quarterback in the league so he should give the team the best chance to win, but McGinty forgot how the replacement team loved Falco and how hard they played for him, he realizes this during the game and was very glad to see Falco at halftime, but if Falco had been released how could he play the seconf half?

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[–] tonyismad 18 years ago

I agree with bjchit-1. The owner pulled rank and the coach had to put Martell against his better judgement.

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[–] LordDragonfury 18 years ago

What I didn't understand is that even though Martell crossed, that Falco wasn't on the sidelines. Falco is still the #2 QB and Martell could get hurt.

What the hell was he doing on his boat? Just for drama? Made no sense. If he was on the active roster, he should have been in the stadium.

This could have been a great movie, if there wasn't so many plotholes, mistakes and edited shots of the cheerleaders in between every play. =p

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[–] jim47-1 18 years ago

Look, this flick isn't *supposed* to make sense. It's campy and silly, and full of things that would never happen in a high school game, let alone a professional one. When did you ever hear a referee announce six player numbers for a False Start? Never! See, that isn't the point. It's entertainment; if one ignores a lot of the plot devices and just runs with the over-arching theme, it's worth seeing now and then.

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[–] bilybong76 18 years ago

My guess is Falco would have been a distraction because the players respected him. Ideally you want your QB to be the unquestioned leader of the offense. Martell would not have been that if Falco was still there. If Falco was waived or not activated forthe game then he would not have been able to play but the way the movie does it makes for a better story I guess

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[–] hans_sulu 10 years ago

I think they mentioned that Martell and another player crossed. That might be the back up quarterback

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[–] crysjumar 9 years ago

What I didn't understand is that even though Martell crossed, that Falco wasn't on the sidelines. Falco is still the #2 QB and Martell could get hurt.

What the hell was he doing on his boat? Just for drama? Made no sense. If he was on the active roster, he should have been in the stadium.

This could have been a great movie, if there wasn't so many plotholes, mistakes and edited shots of the cheerleaders in between every play. =p
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"poking fun"

Well, how else could the movie take a dramatic turn at the end if Falco was already on the sideline.

Falco had to be sitting on his barnacle boat. looking dejected. listening to the game on some piece of schitt am/fm radio.

He then had to be close enough to the stadium to drive through game-day traffic, get into his gear, warm up, and be ready to play..........all in the 20 minutes it takes for Halftime.

that's why i love it.

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[–] nyhighlander2002 17 years ago

I actually think McGinty wanted Falco to step up and say "no way" and that he was THE quarterback of the team. I don't think McGinty actually says Martel is starting over him; he just says Martel crossed. Falco just assumes Martel will start. It was a psychological move to try and get Falco to get over his fear and stand up. Instead, he reverts back to his scared self and steps aside. Then seeing his friends getting the crap beat out of him and Martel acting like the complete jerk he is, and the coach saying they need heart clearly referring to Falco, Falco decides it is time to step up and get over his fears.

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[–] Zyad 17 years ago

Can someone tell me what exactly happened because I missed this part of the movie. I saw McGinty telling Falco that Martel crossed and will be starting the game, then I had to go and do something and I missed about 15 minutes of the movie. When I came back, I was surprised to see Falco in the field leading the team again and there was no Martel!! What happened to Martel and how did Falco come back?! Thanks in advance for the help.

On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

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[–] McFly_2015 17 years ago

To Zvad: Falco's watching on TV, McGuinty says in an interview the team needs heart (something he tells falco that he has over Martel), Falco goes to the stadium and shows up while Martel is arguing with the replacements, Martel is removed from the dressing room and cue the Falco comeback.

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[–] Bernnard_Black 16 years ago

I don't think O'Neil pulled rank on McGinty, because he had it in writing that O'Neil wouldn't be able to change his players; I think McGinty was guilt-tripped into taking back Martell, because he thought it was the best thing for the team. Martell's actions in the movie don't show it, but he was supposed to be the best quarterback in the league, with 2 superbowl rings to prove it. McGinty used him because he believed (but didn't like it) that he wouldn't blow the game the way Shane nearly did against Detroit. After the first half, though, he realized that Martell wasn't working well with the other replacement players, and that he needed Falco back to have a chance.

As for why Falco wasn't on the sidelines, there are a couple of possible reasons. One, O'Neil said that "Martell and Carr have crossed the picket line". Carr may have been Martell's backup QB, and thus Shane wasn't needed. Or, Martell may have put it in his contract (which favored O'Neil heavily from his comments with McGinty) that Shane had to go. He was clearly jealous of Shane's popularity, success, and blooming relationship with Annabelle. I always got the impression that he crossed specifically to get rid of Shane, not becuase he got the deal he wanted.

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[–] pbl1 17 years ago

wait...you had a problem with the plotting of THIS movie!?! Just pull the plug now!

What the $%*& is a Chinese Downhill?!?

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[–] McFly_2015 17 years ago

Also it doesn't seem that Falco has a backup at any point in the film; they dont run QB drills until he shows up and falco acts as the holder on field goals (normally reserved for the backup QB or punter)

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[–] McFly_2015 17 years ago

I understand why one wasn't featured as a central character but I mean logically a team in this situation would get 2 or 3 quarterbacks total. What would have happened if Falco got hurt?

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[–] elduderino09 8 years ago

Very valid point. I enjoyed the movie. But it's attention to detail was completely lacking. That's ok, it's just supposed to be a feel good movie. But particularly the football sequences did not make sense. He wanted that backer to "get him the ball." But it would have been a kneel down in that situation. Only bothersome from a football fan perspective, it delivered on an emotional level.

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[–] dirtyoldhawg 16 years ago

IF Everyone is going to talk about Illogical aspects of the movie go with this:
in the last game on the last two drives,
There are more DEFENSIVE players featured ( Smith, Danny) being involved in offensive drive than the offensive players.

What they suddenly decided to start playing Iron Man two way football?

Two words to soothe your angst:

POETIC LICENSE

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[–] McFly_2015 16 years ago

As far as 'iron man football', that does happen a little bit in the playoffs. It's physically taxing on the players but these guys have no more games. And I think the entire film shows this team is constrained; the QB plays on field goals and kickoffs players play offense and defense, no backup QB.

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[–] jefgg 13 years ago

Football movies are chock full of poetic license ... and clichés. I wish someone would make a decent movie about Arena Football. It would be much easier to film than outdoor football. Arena football is eight players against eight players. Most of the players play both ways. And the field is only 50 yards long.

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[–] jefgg 11 years ago

Wouldn't the coach want Martell to get in some practice with the replacement players?

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[–] Paul_Ke 9 years ago

If you watch the scene carefully, the implication is that McGinty is going to quit the job because the owner is forcing him to not play the QB he wants (Falco). The owner recognizes that McGinty is about to quit, so he plays a guilt trip on McGinty by reminding him that there are a lot of other players on the team who will be devastated if McGinty walks out/quits on them.

That's why McGinty stops on the stairwell and call the owner a son of a bitch. Because the owner had succeeded in guilting him into 1) not quitting and 2) benching Falco for Martell.

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