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Quite Possibly the Most Cliche Movie of All Time


This movie and its various cliches were hilarious to watch. The film even surpassed Saving Private Ryan in regards to the sheer amount of overly patriotic tripe that it managed to squeeze into the 165 minute running time. I did indeed have a decent time watching the movie. However, near the end when Mel Gibson charged with the American flag yelling "hold the line", I literally laughed out loud.

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Did we watch it together? Because I too had the same reaction!

Gentlemen, England will be playing 4-4-f---ing-2

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Believe it or not, traditional values and patriotism, the things that caused your ignorant and indignant outburst, still matter to some folks. That's the problem in this country, people like you.

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Piss off, butt-hurt boy. It was a poor film.





'Then' and 'than' are different words - stop confusing them.

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That's actually the best part when he grabs the flag yelling hold the line and rallying the militia and continental soldiers to follow him and charge the British. Then showing Dan Scott, Occam, colonel Harry and the French officer Jean Villanueve each shown kicking british a$$ because of Mel Gibsons character rallying them was incredible.

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It is no different than other movies of his like Braveheart where he rallies the troops...and I happen to enjoy movies like that. Cliche or not, it works for me.








15 years since The Boondock Saints release. It is still my favorite movie of all time. Giggity.

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I suppose simple things please simple minds.

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Or have reached enlightenment.










15 years since The Boondock Saints release. It is still my favorite movie of all time. Giggity.

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I'm missing something; did you just compare this to Saving Private Ryan? I find absolutely nothing "overly patriotic" about SPR; it was simply a story about an infantry made up of a small group of average soldiers trying to survive through a brutal war, and they happened to be from America. That opening sequence was also very real. There is not one moment in that movie that made me want to pound my chest and yell, "America, Feck Yeah!" It just actually made me depressed and sad about the entire war. SPR was merely a lesson of one the darkest times in human history.


"I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum!"

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Or this film is simply about patriotism and how strong it used to be in America... (as well as bashing the Brits as much as possible in the most un-subtle ways, aha), but him grabbing the flag was just symbolic and done well.

If you don't understand that it's a cliche and yet still done well you are probably too young.

Watching it originally in the theater all I could think of was the movie "Glory" where Mathew Broderick has the Union flag and dies (maybe Broderick), then either Denzel or the other main Black/Army character grabs the flag and continues the charge.

One will learn in HISTORY BOOKS or by simply reading that since the beginning of USA we have always had rules of war in which our flag is carried throught battles (Revolution, Civil War, even up to WW2 and Nam)....

FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS.... based on putting up the US flag after "conquering the Japanese island"..... I guess that's when we went from running with the flag to waiting till victory to plant the flag....

But the Civil War and Revolution people were flag carriers...... it represented so much more than what we think now....

And cliche or not, it's always going to be used, always has been used, and is what it is.

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The film even surpassed Saving Private Ryan in regards to the sheer amount of overly patriotic tripe


This is where you just ignore the OP because he clearly didn't see either film.

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An enjoyable film...yes..but hardly anything like the reality must have been...but, who wants to pay to see a film about unwashed, unshaven,toothless, rather mean looking people?......but... the men were portrayed just as unrealistically ...lol..

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A lot of the Dumbest Generation who post on IMDB inaccurately use the word "cliché" to mean "I didn't like it." If they'd read a book once in a while, they might learn what it actually means.

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A lot of the Dumbest Generation who post on IMDB inaccurately use the word "cliché" to mean "I didn't like it." If they'd read a book once in a while, they might learn what it actually means.






"Guys like you don't die on toilets." Mel Gibson-Riggs, Lethal Weapon

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Your title: it's *clichéd. (adjective as opposed to noun).

And I agree - this movie was like Mel looking back to Braveheart (a good film) and trying to strip all the crowd-pleasing story elements from that and repackaging them.


All he ended up with was a forgettable, cheap copy.

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