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The Brits Have a Right to be Upset


I looked up and down the postings for this movie and I haven't found an important point stated. It's in regard to the scene where the British soldiers rounded up the inhabitants of the village, put them in the church, and burned them to death.

THIS IS SOMETHING THE NAZIS DID TO A VILLAGE IN FRANCE IN 1944!! Unless an incident like this actually happened during the Revolutionary War (which I highly doubt), the Brits have a right to be outraged by this movie.

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It doesn't have to be an exactly historical even as there are many recorded similar events in which the British rounded up and killed people who were suspected of being revolutionaries. The historical evidence is everywhere. For example the simple fact that there are labyrinths of tunnels under almost every big city on the east coast. They needed to hide or it was death to them.
You sound like you're upset by their depiction of people burned in the church, as if simply rounding people up and hanging them in the square is more humane or nicer.

Addirionally, your British colonial history is nothing to be proud of when it comes to colonies in the rest of the world. Up until 1960s the British military have been at work suppressing any revolts and killing the native people in places like Iraq, China, Yemen, and India.

Just in case you bring it up, yes, I do agree that British brought advancement to the regions they colonized. But that is absolutely irrelevant when it comes to the murders they've done. The comparison to SS nazis is not too far off.

Also, yes, the British are not the only empire to have done this. French, Dutch, Russians and Spanish did all these things too.

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Keep crying.

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Screw you, your *beep* country started an illegal war and killed innocent millions. You're the Nazi's buddy.

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The Patriot is one of the worst films I have ever seen. It's just bloody awful. Mel Gibson is an Anglophobic wanker.

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That doesn't make sense, both the "good" guys the Scots and the "bad" guys the English were portrayed differently as the titles imply. The film was another Gibson *beep* but it didn't portray the British as just one thing.

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It's cute when Poles cry about Britain.

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And there is testimony that the Brits (or Tories) really, actually did such a thing during the American Revolution in the southern theater. It is not a made up scene.

The British and the Loyalists behaved abominably during the Revolution. Screw their descendants if they can't handle the truth.



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The British and the Loyalists behaved abominably during the Revolution. Screw their descendants if they can't handle the truth.

Did they? Proof please. And as far as I'm aware more atrocities were committed by the rebels than the British.


Trust me. I know what I'm doing.

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You wont get proof from that vile liar. He just spouts anti-British rhetoric anywhere he can, he even made a post sympathising with the ira.

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yeah he needs a good kicking for sure

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show me these facts please, screw you as you cant handle the truth, it is a made up scene

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It's a movie, a fictional movie loosely based on actual events. The protagonist is an amalgam of at least three different real life human beings. So, OF COURSE THE SCENE IS MADE UP.

We won, you lost, go visit the Republic of Ireland and complain loudly in a pub about the IRA.


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It's a movie, a fictional movie loosely based on actual events. The protagonist is an amalgam of at least three different real life human beings. So, OF COURSE THE SCENE IS MADE UP.

well done you admitted some truth, now you got a pub on the shankill road in the north of ireland and start singing rebel songs funboy

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You are an utter disgrace. Being edgy stops being cool once stop being 12.

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You are a whiny, crybaby, git. You lost, we won, we get to write our movies. Suck it up.

Be grateful that we saved you from speaking German.


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you didnt save anyone from speaking german and the fact you believe shows you probably have downs. lol

and whos we i bet you are no son of the republic ya fake, probably some 19th century paddy lol

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You didn't win anything. Shut up and get back to shining my shoes. No one scares me and I'm proud of who I am. Better than your crap arrogant country which is about to come crashing to the ground by the looks of things.

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Mel, stop posting on these boards. Your lies about the Brits are almost as bad as your hatred for Jews. I am sorry you are a descendent of prisoners.

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I looked up a couple of your other posts. You are obviously a troll and a jackass who attempts to turn every disagreement into a personal matter. Enjoy your fantasy life. Your real life must be a major disappointment.

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I recall, many moons ago, on CSPAN2 book TV a lecture by some writer who was writing about the Revolutionary War in the Southern States (was it called 'Rebels & Redcoats' I think?). He made a very strong point that the antagonists had major class warfare issues with each other-much of it brought from Britain, not the least of which were transplanted Scottish Highlanders living in the hills vs Lowland Scots & British living in the towns. He DID comment on 'The Patriot' a bit as well: He made the funny point that the even in the 1930s Locals would go to a tree to pee on the spot the Loyalist Militia leader Ferguson was shot & killed.
Oh and the church burning scene--He quoted the memoirs of a Local Loyalist (who went to Canada after the war-I think?) who rode with Tarleton. He recollected herding local 'rebel sympathizers into a church, chaining the doors shut & setting 'one end' of it on fire. As the fire slowly spread they were asked to divulge info on the rebels. In their defense, when they 'spilled the beans', the doors were opened & they were let out, but it was an indication of the rather 'hard line' Banestre Tarleton took.








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That's quite an interesting story, thank you. I enjoy watching CSPAN2/3 on the weekends. I tend to jump back and forth between their "Book TV" and their "History TV."

Banestre Tarleton was not well liked, even among the British. If I recall correctly (and it may have already been commented on in this thread, I am back into it after a year or so of absence) he was severely reprimanded by Cornwallis for exceeding his instructions. That is alluded to in the film, as well. However, I also recall reading that Tarleton went on to a highly successful military career with the British army.


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Tarleton came 'this close' to being chosen the British Commander in Portugal, but it was awarded to The Duke of Wellington.





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And screw you, you can stick your opinions up your ass, yankee.

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1. This movie is not a documentary.

2. The character of Gabriel was written to be very principled and steadfast in his duty to the cause. We see this in him repeatedly when he says things to his father like "stay the course" and "this is not the time for revenge". His character had been so steadfast the entire movie that they needed a horrific event that would shake him off of that path and force him to seek vengeance..... hence the church scene.

3. If the Brits don't like it, tough sh*t.


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I assumed the scene with the church burning was a documented scene from the war, did a bit of research, and found it was completely fabricated.

Why would you make a historical movie like this, and change the history so as to make it so innacurate?

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