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So the British were all about war crimes; burning + shooting civilians


That's what I learned from this movie.

I love movies about history, but this one is hard to watch twice. Too much hatred.

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They were/are no worse than americans, we just cover it up. If you dont believe me look up Sand Creek, Wounded Knee, shermans march through georgia- which if it happened today would result in his being hanged for war crimes along with most of his men. The victors write the history, word of mouth passes down the truth

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It's a load of fiction. The British were not oppressive and were not "bad guys" either. In fact, the rebels who later became American were more brutal (on minorities etc.) than the British were. Plus it was the Americans who expanded slavery to its greatest extent in N.America, and it was the Americans who nearly wiped out the natives, not the British.

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Taken from this well known massacre by British troops on their colonists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

The Jallianwala Bagh massacre, also known as the Amritsar massacre, took place on 13 April 1919 when a crowd of nonviolent protesters, along with Baishakhi pilgrims, who had gathered in Jallianwala Bagh, Amritsar, Punjab were fired upon by troops of the British Indian Army under the command of Colonel Reginald Dyer. The civilians had assembled at Jallianwala Bagh to participate in the annual Baisakhi celebrations which are both a religious and a cultural festival of the Punjabis. Coming from outside the city, they may have been unaware of the martial law that had been imposed. The Bagh-space comprised 6 to 7 acres (28,000 m2) and was walled on all sides except for five entrances.[1] On Dyer's orders, his troops fired on the crowd for ten minutes, directing their bullets largely towards the few open gates through which people were trying to run out. The figures released by the British government were 379 dead and 1200 wounded. Other sources place the number of dead at well over 1000. This "brutality stunned the entire nation",[2] resulting in a "wrenching loss of faith" of the general public in the intentions of Britain.[3] The ineffective inquiry and the initial accolades for Dyer by the House of Lords fuelled widespread anger, leading to the Non-cooperation Movement of 1920–22

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Your lack of understanding is both predictable and so very, very typical.
Firstly: the commander was British yes, but the soldiers who carried out that massacre were Indians. Secondly: after that crime there was outcry in Britain at what happened, which led to Dyer being kicked out of the military and punished for his crimes... and prominent British figures were also appalled (Churchill called it "Monstrous" and spout out against it and Dyer in Parliament, and H.H Asquith said it was "one of the worst outrages in our history"). Thirdly: literally all empires and countries have blood on their hands, and America is right up there too. Lastly: these sorts of crimes and the crimes portrayed in this woeful film did not happen during the rebellion in the 13 colonies. It is pure fiction.

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The crimes did happen though. Though the people dying in the church scene was fictional. The only problem to these acts of violence was that the British were not the ones doing the crimes. British militia did the crimes. Colonials who fought for the British were responsible. This is true for SC, since half the colony hated the other half.

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got any links to facts

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Just look up South Carolina during the Revolution, and the Back Country vs the Low Country. That with the South Carolina Regulators will give you everything you need.

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The vast majority did not though.

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There was a war (for good reason), things got ugly on both sides I imagine. Can we stop crying "racism?" It's a movie, and a good one too. Somebody has to be the bad guy.

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Brits are so whiny.  I thought it was pathetic when they whinged about some actor from east London portraying an actor from west London but the crybabies in this thread are even worse.

Awwww a movie hurt their feelings because low life murderous brits were shown to be low life murderous brits. Poor little brits.

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That proves what an ignorant *beep* that you are then.

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I'm quite certain that the brutality depicted by that particular movie character, Tavington, was played just for intensity purposes.

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Do we go to war with people we love??? Get a friggin' clue.

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