So the British were all about war crimes; burning + shooting civilians
That's what I learned from this movie.
I love movies about history, but this one is hard to watch twice. Too much hatred.
To be fair that was pretty mainly in the case of Tavington. They had other Engish characters, particular Conrwallis (as well as that British officer who was visibly shaken when given the order to execute the wounded soldiers that the Martin's were tending to as well as burning down their home), make a big deal about the fact that they disapproved of Tavington's extreme/brutal war methods (to the point that it was said that he couldn't return to England with honor) that Cornwallis eventually relents to permitting only after he becomes desparate enough through the damage done by Martin's men during the war. With that I'd make the argument that it didn't demonize the English as a people.
shareThat's precisely it. For example the Bloody Sunday massacre in Northern Ireland and the Amritsar massacre in India were ordered directly by single officers on the ground at that moment. Yes they were carried out by the troops under their command and very little was done by way of punitive action on the officers but not all soldiers are animals.
Besides a movie needs a baddy and it's rarely on the side that wins. Jason Issacs pulled the short straw on this occasion.
Yours sincerely, General Joseph Liebgott
The irish deserved it.
shareI would give an intelligent response to that if one were warranted. You may indeed genuinely believe that 'the Irish deserved it' but the simplicity and lack of profundity in your post is sufficient evidence to suggest to me, and quite frankly anyone with more than two brain cells, that you're either a xenophobe or an idiot. Then again the two are quite inseparable, so congratulations, you get two prizes.
Yours sincerely, General Joseph Liebgott
xenophobe or an idiot. Then again the two are quite inseparableIt's possible to be an idiot without being a xenophobe. In fact you could actually have a phobia towards people who are different from you, as in an actual mental illness, without being an idiot.
I choose to believe what I was programmed to believe share
Really? Are you that inept? The CLEAR point of the statement is that all xenophobes are idiots.
'Then' and 'than' are different words - stop confusing them.
He did not say "xenophobe and therefore an idiot" or something of that kind. He said "xenophobe _OR_ an idiot". Which makes your blabbering pointless.
shareAs a soldier, you have the right on your side to remove your superior from
command if you think they aren't acting in the best interest of her majesty.
And i highly doubt the english crown wanted their officers to order the killing
of wounded enemy soldiers, or children.. or burning of innocents housing.
Adam Baldwins Character could've easily take away command from Issacs when he
ordered the burning of the church with innocent people inside, and i'm pretty sure
that no one would've judged him because of it.
That's why i have chosen to never do military service, because you have expected
to follow orders and stfu.. and i am not one for keeping quiet when i see something wrong,
and i sure as hell wouldn't follow an order i deemed morally or ethically wrong.
With that I'd make the argument that it didn't demonize the English as a people.
Exactly. I never saw this movie as demonizing the Brits. Only a few Brits were demonized, Tavington and his minions. And they clearly made sure that the vast majority of what happened in this film was portrayed as fiction.
"Lives with no meaning go straight past you, like trains that don’t stop at your station." share