WTF is that supposed to mean? That has got to be the gayest line in the movie.
Get busy livin..... or die tryin - Morgan Freeman, "The Shawshank Redemption"
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Presumably the rhyme of "tired" and "wired" is analogous to gender, and so being both of those is homosexual. Is that what you mean by calling the line "gay"? Because you can't possibly be using the word "gay" as a pejorative. Not in the 21st century and all, right?
sharePresumably the rhyme of "tired" and "wired" is analogous to gender, and so being both of those is homosexual. Is that what you mean by calling the line "gay"? Because you can't possibly be using the word "gay" as a pejorative. Not in the 21st century and all, right?
Oh, I dunno, it has something to do with this bizarre concept I have of not being a completely insulting dickhead to an entire group of people you don't know. But now that you've introduced yourself... nope, I don't need PSAs to explain decency and respect to me. Perhaps you do. And BTW... what are you, part of the internet response police? As in, someone can be a homophobic jerk, but I can't say I disapprove? I guess maybe insulting millions of people who never said boo to you is ok, but calling out a specific individual on their specifically individual bad behavior is offensive to you.
And, oh, by the way... no, I'm not. Try to keep your head from exploding as you attempt to digest that.
You make the assumptions that the original poster isn't gay and that he is a homophobic jerk because he uses the term "gay". I know plenty of gay men and women who use the term (a lot) in the very same manner. So before you continue on your quest I would suggest a long bubble bath with Acme Powerful Sandy Vag Cleaner. Good luck.
And, oh, by the way... no, I'm not.
Oh, I'm sure you're right. Odds are that every anonymous poster who uses a slur like that is really a member of that group just owning the word. And every car parked in a handicapped zone without the tag just left it home. Those tea people with the racist Obama posters? Just people of color in white face. Those merry pranksters!
You have a good day now.
BTW... where do I get one of those Vag Cleaners? Sounds like fun.
Wow you covered the gamut. We have gone from homophobia to racism and you even covered the handicapped. And I guess since I am talking about irritated vagina's then we have now covered sexism.
I am guessing Walgreens/CVS under feminine hygiene.
And you have a great day.
You know, I've been thinking a lot about what might be preventing you from understanding the situation, and I believe I've come up with an idea- in fact, it stems from your own logic, the thing about all the gay folks you know who use the term as a pejorative, so you should appreciate this.
I think you need some new friends.
I've noticed that some black people call each other *beep* So this is what I suggest. Go to a black neighborhood, and when you see people there, walk up to them and say, "Yo, *beep* what's up?" If they look at you funny, just say *beep* PLEASE!" I guarantee that in no time at all you'll be surrounded with many new friends who want to show you just how much they appreciate your use of language.
Now- should you be black yourself, I'm sure you can adapt the above suggestion to some other ethnic group. Experiment! Have fun with it!
And do let us know how it works out for you.
Actually while being white that wouldn't work for me either. While I wouldn't go into a black community and say that to people I don't know. I was raised by a Big Momma and grew up in a black community. My wife is black and I am very close to my in-laws. I use the term but I use it with people I know and that I am friends with. Growing up the way I did do you think I haven't been called cracker, whitey, honky, grayback etc. Pfft please. I can't think of one time it every bothered me even when it was meant negatively much less when it was meant affectionately. Who cares, I sure didn't...it always made me laugh.
The world would be a better place if adults would believe those words we were taught as kids "stick and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me". I still believe it.
So while I am cool with anyone wanting to be whoever they want to be. Its none of my business. I have issues with whiners and victims of this world. Be what you want but be strong about it. I understand your original post (sure people should be nice) but I don't much care for it. Because it doesn't change anything. Calling someone out either on the Internet or in Real Life isn't going to change someones ways. I very much doubt its ever worked.
People should be proud of what and who they are. And everyone else can go *beep* themselves.
NOW you're making sense. The whole point is, as you say, what you say to and around people you know is very different from what you say to people you don't, and that includes on the internet. In fact, you've made my point very clearly. I am surprised, given your own family, that you don't realize the difference between a socially empowered group (in your case, whites, or in the original debate, heterosexuals) being called names and a socially repressed group, blacks or gays, being called names. In fact, it may be even worse when something that partly defines a person's identity (sexual orientation) is used as a negative for everything ("That's so gay!").
"The world would be a better place" if people would think about their affect on those around them, and the power of what they say. "Sticks and stones" become something more hurtful when they are literal and are used to beat and kill people. Remember also that this is the "world wide" web. Maybe things are better where you are, but check out the new laws about gays in one African nation in particular.
And by the way- in case you meant me- I am neither black nor gay, so in this case, I'm hardly being a whining victim. Perhaps I've just developed a sensitivity towards those who have had to deal with hateful feelings I haven't been the victim of myself.
End of PSA.
I never said I don't see your point. I see your point very clearly. What I am saying is its worthless to "tell someone about it". It does no good. As well I completely understand the differences between a socially empowered group verse a socially repressed group. But again in my opinion "telling someone about it" doesn't work. The guy that drops the n bomb. The person that uses the term "thats gay". Isn't going to change his opinions/feelings on the matter because someone calls him out and "tells him about it". And calling those type of people on it in my opinion just makes them use it all the more. It reinforces not hinders.
I am not sure what you mean by "in case you meant me". I never assumed you were black or gay or a whining victim. What I was saying is I have issues with people who choose to be a victim. No matter what gender, what race or what sexual preference. Because playing the victim doesn't get anyone anywhere. Its on the same level as "telling someone about it". Both are worthless as social change. Look at any of the major movements in the 20th Century. Womens rights, civil rights and gay rights. Those movements took place because people choose to be empowered. They choose to be strong. Not weak, not a whiner and definitely not a victim. People respect the person who stands up and says I am strong and I have rights and if you don't like it you can go *beep* yourself even when they don't completely understand the issue.
Thats really all I am saying.
I didn't assume you meant me, I thought it was possible. That's why I said "in case". I'm very literal in my communications.
I pretty much agree with your second paragraph.
Those points aside, I'm glad you understood my point. I don't agree that speaking up never does any good. I agree to the point that sometimes, probably even frequently, it does no good. However, not speaking up at all certainly won't accomplish anything. And even if the original poster doesn't get it, there may be someone else reading who might. There might be someone else reading our exchange who is gay, not as empowered as we both might wish, and takes some comfort in knowing that a straight man supports their rights. And that might encourage that person's own empowerment, especially a young person.
This is all sort of the corollary to my original objection. The poster has no idea what negative effect his post has which he'll never hear about. I have no idea what positive effect my response might have which I'll never hear about. And that's fine. One of the prouder moments in my life was when I received an actual anonymous threat in the mail for speaking up about the right for gays and lesbians to marry. The death threat aside, I don't do it for the response. I do it because I feel it's right. If it falls on deaf ears most of the time, so be it. In this case, if nothing else, I feel you and I have had, in the end, a very positive exchange of ideas.
So- sincerely this time- you have yourself a good day.
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My understanding of this line is this:-
I'm a little tired - he's tired from running around stealing the cars
I'm a little wired - he's prob got a lot of adrenaline pumping round his body following the police chase and/or he's been drinking a lot of coffee/energy drinks to stay awake
Therefore it isn't the 'gayest' line in the film, its just a description of how he's feeling at that moment
It might help the OP if he bothered to think. "Tired" means he hasn't slept. "Wired" means he's running on adrenaline fumes and is a bit jittery from all the incessant high-speed cop evasion.
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