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That was seen in Day of Days. Did American citizens who fought for Nazi Germany get the same treatment as the Germans?
shareIf they were US Citizens and they survived they could be tried for treason. I think the guy we see in show was an immigrant but not a citizen, in that case he'd legally be just another POW, but we'd probably not him reenter the US.
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He wasn't an immigrant. He said, "I was born in Eugene."
His case would've been interesting, since he said it was his father's decision that all Volksdeutsche should return to the Fatherland. I guess it would depend on his age - if he was 18, I assume he'd have been held responsible for taking up arms against the US.
Then again, Speirs shot the kid, so it's all moot.
Then again, Speirs shot the kid, so it's all moot.
Well that's not really shown, is it? share
Ha ha! That's called "happening off screen", Einstein. Speirs, the only man with a gun, offers the prisoners cigarettes, as per the custom before execution. As Malarkey walks away, he hears multiple gunshots, and looks back, horrified. Do you REALLY need to see bodies falling to get that Spiers executed the German prisoners?
shareBut then there is a shot of Speirs looking disgusted while 'somebody else' was busy shooting at POWs trying to run away across a field.
Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?
So, there is no chance that the prisoners tried to jump him and then he shot? It "had" to be an execution, right?
sharePlease. Where is there any evidence of that? Don't you think Spiers would've said something if that were the case?
shareWhenever a person is asked a direct question and they avoid giving a direct answer, it is almost always a sign that they know the answer they want to give will prove themselves wrong.
So, I'll ask it again.
There is no chance that the prisoners tried to jump him and then he shot? It "had" to be an execution, right?
Ask all you want. It’s a baseless question. If it weren’t, you could’ve answered mine.
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You made the claim that he murdered them. I questioned your claim. It is up to you to defend you claim. By avoiding giving a direct answer to my question you are admitting you are wrong.
shareHe didn't murdered them. He executed them since it is war.
shareSo, there is no chance that the prisoners tried to jump him and then he shot? It "had" to be an execution, right?
shareNo I don't think so. I think they knew their fates and were accepting of it.
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Thank you for bringing your dumb ass politics into a conversation. The minute the Republicans, let go of trying to pass anti abortion laws and realize man is responsible for global warming then maybe I would think about voting for one. Since they stand against everything I personally believe in, Obama was the best choice around.
shareSo what you are saying, besides that you are wrong about the prisoners being executed, is that you don't understand enough about the law to know it is based upon bad law and is actually inconsistent within the law and that you really have no clue as to how global-warming-next-ice-age-cooling-climate-changing actually works.
Antarctica was a tropical place millions of years before man walked the earth.
The Younger-Dryas effect was a HUGE climate change - which took place before man had any real impact upon the environment.
And, you are wrong about the prisoners being executed.
Alright you have entered the stupid zone so please go away. I don't like idiots
shareSo then you self-hate. Because you have to be an idiot to believe 100% that the prisoners were executed.
Oh, and it is funny how you tucked your tail and ran once I brought up all of the BS about "global warming." Kind of flies in the face of the environmentalist azzholes BS about how much man is causing climate change when the climate has had devastating changes on its own a multitude of times before man could have had any impact.
I didn't run I told you I don't like talking to idiots. What you don't understand that global changes in the past happened over thousands of years if not longer. The changes we see now are happening over decades. You have to be blind to not be able to see that the changes in the environment coincide with the rise of the industrial revolution.
We were having a decent conversation about the topic then you went full retard. Never go full retard. Anyways have a good day in your fantasy world.
So then you admit that the earth has had worse things happen to it without man being involved and it has bounced back.
Thanks for being so stupid!
Sigh
Since you still don't understand I will let George Carlin explain it to you
The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are!
We’re going away. Pack your *beep* folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam … The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.
Agent Smith will explain it to you too
I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species, and I realised that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply, until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer on this planet, you are a plague, and we...are the cure.
You just have to look at LA to see we are a cancer on this planet.
Sigh, since you don't get it, we've been through worse and survived. And, I'm not saying we should pollute.
But, liberals want all of this legislation and taxes and vilify industry. But, then liberals go and tear up the environment and don't get on themselves first. Plus, their taxes and legislation drives companies out of business and or to other countries.
When those companies go to other countries, those countries don't give a f^ck about the environment and therefore allow those companies to pollute way more than they ever did in the US - all while costing the average person a job.
Human beings are a disease, a cancer on this planet, you are a plague, and we...are the cure.
Which is HILARIOUS considering how many wealthy, wasteful liberal hypocrites they are. Al Gore has become a multi-millionaire, about as wealthy as Mitt Romney, selling you offsets which do nothing, while he's flying around in private jets, riding with his wife in limo's meant for 14, buying an $8 million house on the beach in Malibu...hey! Aren't all of the coast lines supposed to be under water in a few years????
If you sh!t stains would actually do something other than whine and make it harder for the rest of us, I could stand with you. Get on your liberal gods to invest their money (I'm talking real money, not a few million here or there, Spielberg & Winfrey are worth about $6 billion together) into making super high efficient solar panels and selling them cheaply to the average person and business it would give jobs to the 99% and help the planet.
Instead, they take your money and laugh at you while they have their lavish parties in their huge, energy wasteful homes.
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I am not going to bother to read your drivel because when someone uses the word liberal, I know they aren't worth talking to and are just brainwashed. If you think the Republicans or Democrats have our best interest at heart then you are a fool. Try thinking for yourself.
shareliberal, I know they aren't worth talking to and are just brainwashed. If you think the Republicans or Democrats
I do think for myself. That is why I'm not a Republican, and, unless you paid me, I wouldn't be a Democr*p or a libtard.
I am, however, fiscally Conservative and socially moderate. That means I'm a hundred times better than a Republican, a million times better than a Democr*p, and a hundred trillion times better than a liberal.
He!!, what I wipe and flush every morning is a billion times better than all liberals put together. share
Oh man anyone that uses the word libtard is very brainwashed and to think you are better than anyone else is very funny. It is this stupid attitude that is driving this country apart.
shareNo, sugarbritches, it is the liberal's double-standard which is driving the country apart.
If a man wants to declare they are a woman so he can use the ladies locker room, liberals say it is ok and we have to be tolerant.
If a Conservative says that it is wrong and they don't want men to be in the locker room with their young daughters, then liberals call the Conservatives bigots.
Liberals say if a person disagrees with 0bama they are doing it because they are racists. But, liberals refer to Dr. Ben Carson and any black Conservatives as "Uncle Tom's."
I'm from Illinois. I defy you to come here and tell me what Conservatives have done wrong to ruin this state. What have they done to ruin any big city? Seriously. Every large city which is a sh!t hole has been under the thumb of liberals for decades. Chitcago, Detroilet, NY, etc.
Anyways have fun in your fantasy world, I have to get back to reality.
shareIf it were only fantasy that liberals were scumbags.
Interesting how you tucked up your tampon string and ran your bleeding vagina away since you can't dispute anything I just posted.
Typical, hypocritical, pansy libtard.
No just don't care to talk to someone like you. I told you that a while back. I am not going to change your mind and you aren't going to change my mind. It is obvious you can't think for yourself so why bothering talking to you. Besides Speirs did execute those prisoners.
shareYou aren't going to change my mind because I think for myself. I won't change your mind because yours is shoved up your anus.
And, as proof of how wrong you are, you still think he executed the prisoners regardless of the scene being 100% ambiguous.
You are ignorant and closed minded, which is why you are "sure" it was an execution.
But, we expect nothing different from libtards. They are all ignorant and closed minded.
mmm is that all you could do is try to insult me. This is a big reason not to debate you because you just throw insults around. It is like talking to some 12 year old. I am sure it is an execution because I bothered reading the book.
shareI've insulted you way worse. You are just too stupid to understand it.
What does reading the book have to do with the show? All we saw was what was on the screen, and we didn't see if he executed them or if they attacked.
So, being the ignorant, closed minded sh!t stain you are you conclude that he executed them.
Oh, and by the way,
Stories from Easy veterans suggest the shootings did take place, including Richard Winters stating that Speirs suggested the rumors were true but never gave any details. However, if the shooting of the prisoners actually took place, its exact location cannot be conclusively determined. Donald Malarkey claimed he heard a Tommy gun firing near the location of the prisoners on D-Day but did not actually see anything. Winters originally heard that the incident took place at Bastogne. Carwood Lipton claimed he heard it occurred in Carentan. Speirs never discussed the rumors publicly.
Care to reference where in the book it was said it was an execution, liar?
I doubt you will respond with an actual answer. Pansies like you don't have the spine. share
No you are trying to insult me. To insult me I have to take what you say personally. I just feel sorry for you at this point. You seem like an angry young man in need of help. More likely you are just a keyboard warrior or a troll.
Anyways that is what I remember from the book. Nonetheless if he did kill them it was an execution and not murder and that is the real point of all this. Anyways at this point, this post is just getting the last word in and I will let you have that one. Good luck with your life.
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Ha ha! That's called "happening off screen", Einstein. Speirs, the only man with a gun, offers the prisoners cigarettes, as per the custom before execution. As Malarkey walks away, he hears multiple gunshots, and looks back, horrified. Do you REALLY need to see bodies falling to get that Spiers executed the German prisoners?
In a later episode, there is an exchange between Lipton and Spiers about "whether the stories about him are true", or not. I suppose the ambiguity of Spiers' actions were meant by the directors to reflect the ambiguity of war itself?
Speirs, the only man with a gun,
Well that's just wrong. Spiers is shown walking up to the bunch of POWs and you think none of the GIs that were already there guarding them had weapons? You need to watch it again.
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Then again, Speirs shot the kid, so it's all moot.
We don't know this for a fact. Whether or not Speirs actually killed POWs on D-Day is something we'll NEVER know, as no witnesses ever came forward - either in the miniseries or in real life. Various theories surfaced about what happened, and the viewer sees them visualized in episode 3.
But these are theories, and nothing more. share
Didn't the US paratroopers have an order to not take prisoners, in essence shoot all German military folks they came across? Do you know if this was implemented in any large extent by the US paratroops?
shareThe paratroopers had been directed to make their jumps, proceed to their designated assembly areas and fulfill their missions. And if they came across any Germans along the way, they were to kill them - at least, if they were in a position to do so (a lone paratrooper who'd lost his weapon making his jump who then encountered an entire company of Germans wasn't expected to do much except lie low & search for his unit).
Of course, the situation here represented something different - the mission to capture the guns at Brecourt Manor had already been successfully completed, and these Germans had surrendered and been taken captive; the time had come for the invasion forces to figure out how to deal with POWs. Needless to say, some soldiers resorted to improvised solutions.
But the point remains no one actually witnessed Speirs handing out cigarettes to a group of POWs & then mowing them down with a machine gun.
Actually, Winters himself confirmed that the Speirs rumor was true. Both about the six German prisoners and the sergeant in his own unit. Speirs reported the shooting of his sergeant, but the captain that was in command was killed the next day and no one else pursued it.
shareActually, Winters himself confirmed that the Speirs rumor was true.
I've read Winters "confirmation," but it lacks detail & specifics. He never stated how he KNEW it was true - did Speirs confess to him? Did Winters at some point encounter a witness? It's a point in his book that needed more clarity.
As for the incident with the sergeant, Speirs was always honest and forthcoming about what happened. share
Yeah when it comes to the drunk/insubordinate/mutinous/froze under fire (those are the various reasons I have heard) Sergeant, Speirs quite clearly says he shot him & continued with the mission.
Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?