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Does Webster understand German or not?


In some episodes, Pvt. Webster is an interpreter for the unit. In others, he doesn't understand german. What gives?

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"Band of Brothers" is a terrific miniseries, but the show is has its share of flaws; Webster's inconsistent command of German is definitely a problem area.

Webster is first shown speaking and interpreting German in "Replacements" (episode 4); he does the same in "The Last Patrol" (episode 8), where he's established as one of Easy Company's two German interpreters. However, in "Why We Fight" (episode 9), Lesniewski tells Webster what a German baker is saying during a particularly tense scene. Given what the viewer knows about Webster, and the fact that the baker's words could be interpreted by someone with even a rudimentary knowledge of German, it's a baffling, head-scratching moment, and one that's compounded by a checkpoint scene in "Points" (episode 10) in which Webster is shown speaking German again.

The inconsistency might be attributed to the fact that episode 9 was written by someone who wasn't associated with either episodes 4, 8 or 10. Still, that's the kind of continuity error a supervising script editor is expected to catch; failing that, I can't imagine Eion Bailey (who played Webster) NOT bringing this discrepancy to the director's attention. Were the two episodes filmed so far out of sequence that even Bailey didn't notice the error? Or was additional dialogue left on the cutting room floor that made it clear Webster knew what the baker was saying, but simply didn't believe him?

After glancing at the scene again, and noticing the very obvious cut after Lesniewski tells Webster what the Baker has said, I'd say the latter is the most likely explanation. But until an interview (or a commentary track) surfaces that explains the inconsistency, I can't say for sure; maybe someone else can supply the relevant info.

In reality, David Kenyon Webster was a member of his school's German Club; however, in his memoir "Parachute Infantry," he describes his command of the language as "linguaphone German."

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I think it's more the writers feeling that the scene wouldn't have the same emotional impact if Webster was speaking German and we either had to read subtitles or guess what they were trying to say. If you watch the scene, Webster clearly understands what the Baker's saying. But in his shock and fury at discovering the camp, he's yelling to the Baker in English.

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There would have been no reason for the episode to use subtitles; the audience had already seen Webster speaking German (in episode 8) without them.

The problem here is a scene in which Lesniewski is shown translating the words of a German baker to Webster, when it's already been established that Webster understands German & is one of the company's German-English translators. This moment has thrown many first-time viewers off - and as I've said, the confusion is understandable.

At the very least, the viewer expects Webster to turn on Lesniewski and respond, "I KNOW what he's saying; I just don't buy it."

Like I said before, it's either poor script continuity or (more likely) a scene that was trimmed in the final edit.

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webster did say *beep* to the german baker about him not knowing about the camp.

bird signs you want to plan a strategy based on bird signs.

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To be fair, his failure to understand in that one scene, you can come up with a speculative explanation for why the character Webster does not understand, regardless of technical/production details behind the scenes. Basically, there are colloquialisms, slang.. Lesniewski on account of his heritage probably spoke German better than Webster who was basically Harvard educated.

So, I get the idea that Webster just needed a hand on that one occasion. I don't think that's too farfetched.

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To be fair, his failure to understand in that one scene, you can come up with a speculative explanation for why the character Webster does not understand, regardless of technical/production details behind the scenes. Basically, there are colloquialisms, slang.. Lesniewski on account of his heritage probably spoke German better than Webster who was basically Harvard educated.


Not that it's ever discussed in the series, but Lesniewski's language was Polish, not German. And the only other company member who was established as a German speaker was Liebgott, not Lesniewski.

What we're talking about is a frightened German baker using the words "Ich verstehe nicht," which means "I don't understand." And this isn't colloquial or slang; translations for "I understand" and "I don't understand" are among the first phrases any English/German speaker learns. Which makes it practically inconceivable Webster wouldn't understand those words upon hearing them (and he certainly wouldn't need someone else to translate what they mean).

Like I've said, this subject has been discussed many times since the episode was first telecast. And apart from being a continuity goof, the only other explanation might be there was originally more dialogue in the scene that wound up on the cutting room floor.

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I'm pretty sure this has been covered previously, in the one and as far as I know only scene that contradicts Webster being able to speak German it actually isn't a mistake. It wasn't meant to be a case that Webster can't understand, he didn't want to converse with the guy in German or even acknowledge what he was saying by understanding the German, he is supposed to be that sickened by them living just up the road from the camps and claiming not to know. By this stage he is disgusted with the Germans and won't indulge in their language.

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It wasn't meant to be a case that Webster can't understand, he didn't want to converse with the guy in German or even acknowledge what he was saying by understanding the German, he is supposed to be that sickened by them living just up the road from the camps and claiming not to know. By this stage he is disgusted with the Germans and won't indulge in their language.




People have offered various interpretations of why Webster wasn't speaking German, and they're all very interesting - but that isn't the issue here. What we're discussing is a moment that makes it appear Webster, already established as one of Easy's two German-English translators, is suddenly (and inexplicably) unable to UNDERSTAND one of the most elementary sentences in the German language. And having Lesniewski translate the baker's simple German sentence only compounds the problem.

Webster's disgust over what he and the company have discovered (and the professed ignorance of the townspeople) could have been conveyed in a way that didn't create confusion for first-time viewers about Webster's ability to speak & understand German.

Like I've said from the start, confusion (in this case) is understandable, because so many people have come to this board over the past 15 years asking why it suddenly appears Webster can't understand German in episode 9.

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