I just watched Gladiator for the 100th time, and that movie is one of the best I've ever seen. Now Braveheart on the other hands some would say has better action scenes. I think they rub neck to neck in action scenes go. As far as the story and cinematography goes Gladiator wins hands down. I know Mel Gibson is an ok director but he can't hold a candle to Ridley. I'm not really all that supportive of actors directing themselves either. Which is the better movie to you and why?
Both films are based on historical events but take plenty of liberties with the facts, so for me it's not an issue of which is more realistic but which is simply the better story, and in that regard I'd pick Gladiator.
Now that doesn't mean I don't like Braveheart. I love both of these movies, and if I see either of them on TV I'd probably sit and watch 'em. However, sometimes the characters in Braveheart (at least to me) act a little strange or out-of-character, and personally it feels like the movie loses steam about halfway or two-thirds through.
Gladiator on the other hand has a sense of scale, and while Braveheart hits the audience over the head with "Scots are wonderful and English are horrible," the conflict in Gladiator is also a revenge story but it keeps the focus on Maximus with the concepts of loyalty and what it means to be Roman. In Braveheart, Wallace's wife's death happens and gets him involved with fighting the English, but aside from a few times he sees his wife's ghost (?!) it's never really brought up again and we feel like Wallace was going to fight the English anyway. In Gladiator, Maximus' struggle because of the deaths of his family are directly intertwined with the conflict against the Emperor.
Personally I like Gladiator more; don't get me wrong it's far from perfect, and Braveheart is a decent epic as well.
Can't be too careful with all those weirdos running around.
"but aside from a few times he sees his wife's ghost (?!) it's never really brought up again and we feel like Wallace was going to fight the English anyway."
They actually tried recruiting him to fight against the English before the death of his wife, he refused and said "if I can live in peace, I will."
So in the context of the film, it definitely didn't come across like "he was going to fight them anyway." If he could've lived a peaceful life without fighting them, as he wanted to, that's what he would've done.
Braveheart is overrated. Mel Gibson is a B-level actor. I like him in Maverick, or you know, any good summer movie, but that's about it. When I tried to watch Passion of the Christ I fell off of my chair: how a movie can be that bad but still reach a large audience? Gibson is not a top 50 directors of all time and not a top 100 actors. I see him at the same level of Val Kilmer or a Baldwin brothers, or you know, any good b-level actor that you might like or not depending on your taste. But the fact that he reached Oscar-level for both his acting and direction really bugs me, but that is just my opinion I guess. But I respect him as a fantastic B-level actor, I enjoyed his performance in Forever Young. Good little drama!
"When I tried to watch Passion of the Christ I fell off of my chair: how a movie can be that bad but still reach a large audience?"
Probably by being beautifully made, moving iconography with stunning direction, cinematography, music score, performances, visuals, set/costume designs, etc...
Regardless of ones feelings toward the subject matter, it's an extremely artistically made film with the potential for a great deal of emotional resonance, depending on how open the viewer is to at the very least entertaining the themes of the story for the sake of the viewing experience.
"Mel Gibson is a B-level actor."
The guy is pure charisma, as much as anyone Hollywood has ever built up to the superstar level. He's about as far as you can get from "Val Kilmer or a Baldwin brother." Wallace wouldn't have been half as enthralling to watch if Paramount hadn't pushed Gibson into playing the part (Jason Patric being an idea that was thrown around...a very bland choice that's more accurately comparable to the type of B actor you were referring to).
"Probably by being beautifully made, moving iconography with stunning direction, cinematography, music score, performances, visuals, set/costume designs, etc... "
All that feels fake to me. I am just watching the torture scene: the leading actor is faking like a WWE wrestler. A key moment destroyed by Mel Gibson. I would rather have shown the actor playing Jesus asking his father to forgive the humans torturing him rather than directing that scene as a bad wrestling joke with blood.
I score both movies a 10/10 because both are masterpieces of the genre and are on my top 10 favorite movie list. Though Braveheart is definitely my favorite of the two.