Sara


Having been reminded by reading the entry in the trivia section, Sara is not the first name of Mrs. Lisbon. I wasn't the only one who couldn't find it anywhere. The listed IMDB credits for her lacks a first name (it's otherwise accurate--Joe Hill Conley's name was changed for the movie probably to differentiate him from "Joe the Retard").

Kim Basinger was originally offered the role of Sara Lisbon, but after the success of L.A. Confidential (1997) she became very expensive. Alyssa Milano was also considered for the role of Sara Lisbon, but dropped out from the project due to scheduling conflicts from Charmed (1998).


Twenty-eight year old Alyssa considered for the role of Mrs. Lisbon? Are you kidding?

I can't be 100% certain the above wasn't only added several years ago.

It's sticking, there are people who think her name is Sara now: http://www.answers.com/topic/the-virgin-suicides-film

When I read the book I wasn't keeping an eye out for it. My cursory page-by-page searches have never found anything. If somebody knows of a version of the book online the text can be searched with, it could put this to rest. Or better yet, name the page it's on/

I brought this up on here before, but I can't find the post; it wouldn't be the first time they've been deleted.

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I just corrected the Wikipedia page.

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Submitted the deletion from the trivia section.

http://juliekinnear.com/toronto-filming-locations/the-virgin-suicides- 1999

No mention of a Sara. It doesn't say what role Alyssa Milano was offered, but even if it is within the realm of possibility to cast a twenty-eight year old actress for the "only in her forties" part of Mrs. Lisbon--it is, of course--it's still not a usuality. On the other hand, there's an eleven year difference between her and the oldest daughter.

Sara's not on the dvd case nor its insert Nor does Kathleen Turner refer to her character as Sara in her autobiography.

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Mrs. Lisbon was never given a first name in the book. Neither was Mr. Lisbon. I have the E-book from Google Play,so I did a search for Sara (no results) and Sarah (there's a Sarah Sheed, one of the many girls infatuated with Trip).

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Page 193 in my copy, Lisbon, Ronald A. is listed in Joe Larson's phone book. I'm not 100% sure but they might also show it in the movie. Their street name, Whitehall, is visible when they search through the phone book, so his first name is probably too.

The third person plural narrator(s) though not omniscient knew Mrs. Lisbon's first name. Nothing else left untouched, they would've expended a few lines to rationalize why they didn't know her name if that were the case. As adults, they tracked her down for an interview, meeting at a bus station, and still, no first name. Sofia for whatever reason doesn't rectify what may have been an oversight on Jeffrey the author's part.

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that phone book part. :P

I'm sure the narrator knew Mrs. Lisbon's first name, and I doubt Jeffrey Eugenides simply forgot to give her one. He did something similar in his book Middlesex. The main character's brother is only ever referred to as Chapter Eleven. I don't have my copy of Middlesex with me to verify, but I don't think his first name is ever revealed. And a girl at school is also never named, she is always The Obscure Object. So I'm sure he had a reason for never revealing Mrs. Lisbon's first name, too.

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I watched this movie today on Netflix and noted the description is as follows: "Following the suicide of their youngest, Ronald and Sara Lisbon attempt to sequester their other daughters away from intrigued neighborhood boys."

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Along with Jeffrey Eugenides' book, Kathleen Turner's book, & the dvd insert, there is no Sara Lisbon to be found in the press kit, or the 1999 magazine. In short, a Sara has yet be found in the realm of printed material (there are the Paris Review and the uncorrected version of the book that have to be checked). Paramount and American Zoetrope both screwed up?

I can tell you for sure IMDB's dramatis personae listed a Mrs. Lisbon from 2002 until several years ago, when, like the Wikipedia entry, it suddenly said there was a Sara--read the thread above about the bogus showbiz news that was submitted and entered into the trivia section.

The dvd has been available from Netflix for awhile. If you needed to find out if the Netfix's description including Sara was written within the last several years after the hoax permeated the web through IMDB and Wikipedia, both widely sourced and subject to editing by users without accountability, there is this blockhead question posted on Yahoo Answers: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130618213713AApZTyr

Neither Jeffrey Eugenides nor Sofia Coppola have given Mrs. Lisbon a first name. If they intentionally wrote her without a first name, it could be a relevant detail illustrating how the third person plural narrative perceived her, a homemaker from whose appearance none of the attractive qualities seen in her daughters could be found. When it comes to the movie, nobody other than Sofia Coppola has the right to give her that name.

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I certainly agree that she was purposefully not given a name by the author, I was merely commenting on how widespread the "Sara" name got despite there being no published evidence! I actually found it embarrassing for Netflix, it gave me the impression that they might be pulling their synopsis from Wikipedia!

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Wow, who am I to make a fuss? If Netflix was actually duped, fine. If there's a prankster who wants to possess a tiny portion of The Virgin Suicides' soul by controlling the esoteric with disinformation, again, fine. It's just irritating for me how often it's hard to be doubt free of your conclusions; I was half expecting to notice for the first time that the press kit said Sara Lisbon. Everything's a limb you shouldn't go out on. As hypocritical as it is in light of what I just said, go ahead, mess with everything, as long it's understood I'm in the know.

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