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Why did the girls smirk so much?



For such sheltered, naive girls they always seemed to have a devilish smirk on all their faces.
Not just Lux, but all of them, even Cecilia seemed demonic in her expressions.
I've read the book, and while Lux seemed impish in a way, the way the film depicts them doesn't show them as such 'innocents'.
They seem like they are just playing along with their parents, almost like they are otherworldly beings.

What was all that about?


"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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If they did smirk without an obvious catalyst it would've been the older girls doing so at their predicament. Teenaged girls living the cloistered life throughout their high school years wasn't (and isn't) as archaic as popular culture may have led you to believe (it's much more common for girls 16 and under). The girls for whatever reason apparently never raised a fuss about it and for that matter, weren't the instigators of the basement party. The doctor's prescription, the remedy, for their dreamy little sister's histrionics over an unrequited crush was to be "codification" by boys, with the dosage to be administered at a basement party. To the cruder mind the narrative would've couched it as oppressed catholic girls following doctor's orders to get some, and indeed, down the road, the neophyte slut Lux said she "needed to have it."

This is the image of Lux during the basement party, this particular unguarded smile is mentioned in the book:

http://screenmusings.org/TheVirginSuicides/pages/TVS_149.htm

A devotee of fashion magazines, Mary cultivated a sophisticated veneer that responded to the indignity of the teenaged experience with a cynical smile. Her greeting at the basement party wasn't flourished by a smile as much as the musculature needed to keep a snide remark bottled up.

A smirk can convey a wide array of emotions. Were they smirking during their clandestine flirtations with Peter Sissen when he was over for dinner?

The boys invited to the basement party were from the Lisbon's neighborhood, one from as close as across the street. Though they may have genuinely cared about the sisters, they were as a group the sort of "sunken chested" wimps Mr Lisbon had hoped his daughters could avoid. On the arms of the football squad at the Homecoming Dance the only discordant expression that flashes across any of the girls' faces is perhaps Bonnie's glare as she watches Lux protectively.

Therese in the foreground of Mrs. Lisbon's chastisement of Lux for footshow:

http://screenmusings.org/TheVirginSuicides/pages/TVS_480.htm

Tim's snores are criticized from the afterlife:

http://screenmusings.org/TheVirginSuicides/pages/TVS_305.htm

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I haven't read the book but considering the film and everything we see in it is through the boys filtered lens, perhaps the smirks were just another indicator of the girls knowing something the boys didn't..or at least the boys remembering it that way, as years later they still cannot work out the full story. If that's the case, it just makes Sofia Coppola seem even more brilliant imo for adding such a subtle element.

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Ahhh, boys. Y'all are boys. A lot can be hidden in a "smirk". Clearly you've never been a 13 year old girl. ;)

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I'm female, so yes I've been a 13 year old girl.

And I still don't understand why the girls smirked so much.


"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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The girls are relatively isolated. We find out by the end of the film that Mary was not allowed to Cheer, so I'm guessing no extra-curricular activities for any of them. I'd hazard a guess and say that they're their own little peer group, which comes with it's own cache of in-jokes, and "knowing" things that other people don't.

The only one who was a sort of outsider even within that group was Cecilia, and she was observant, as evidenced by the things she wrote in her diary (in between boring recitations of what they ate).

I know that I smirk when I know something that someone else doesn't, and it's not in my interest to share it with them.

Or say...back in high school...when you zone out and someone thinks you're staring at them, and they happen to be one of those girls who thinks they're God's gift...Well, when they start saying, "Oh crap! I have pen or something on my face, don't I?" (they don't)...you just kind of give a half-smirk, half-smile, shrug and go back to what you were doing, and watch them scramble for a reflective surface to try and work out what you weren't even looking at.

Not that I would ever be so cruel. 😉

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