In the locker room scene where nude men prevailed, in the background is one fellow's erect penis that must have gotten by the censors (who gave this film an "R").
Who is the actor who had the erection? The part's fairly out there and at amazes me that the MPAA didn't see it or gave the film a "pass" (if you will) and an "R" rating in spite of possibly having seen it.
(There, I've said it ... phew! )
The more Ken Loach films I try to see, the more I think they need subtitles!
Been a while since I've seen the movie so I'm sketchy on the details of the aforementioned scene, but I wonder if you're referring to the fullscreen version that was released on VHS and airs on cable. In the fullscreen version they've opened up the top and bottom of the frame (rather than cropping down big 2.35:1 widescreen picture to TV size), which results in a substantial amount of full frontal that's not visible on the widescreen theatrical/DVD print. Assuming that's the case, it explains how the erection got past the MPAA -- they never saw it, as the picture was predominantly cropped at the guys' waists.
Well, even in R-rated films, erections CAN get past the ratings board folks ... It doesn't happen often but in a strictly non-sexual context, when men are soaping up in the shower and bathing themselves "down there" the occasional hardened penis gets through ... My thought: The part gets a film NC-17 rated when "it" is shown in a sexual context, when you KNOW a man's arousal will lead to a sex or a love scene. Why there were so many erections in that particular scene is beyond me. I saw more than one if you count "semis", that is. I guess everyone wasn't thinking about baseball, haha.
The more Ken Loach films I see, the more I think they need English subtitles.
Well I only saw one movie with an obvious erection before. Well, maybe two, but one was intended (Lie with Me) the other was Loss of Sexual Innocence. You can add that to your list.
Yeah, H'wood still has a real bent about showing male "man veggies" in a pleasured state. And, it's funny too because isn't the system still largely controlled by men? So, you'd think they wouldn't mind showing actors with great parts off, would you? Oh ... unless they all think that doing so would possibly be "too gay" and since The Industry is still pretty homophobic, and leading men (who play straight roles) are not encouraged to "come out" (least of all by Richard Chamberlain in a recent ish of the Advocate Magazine!) then ... that wouldn't do, would it?
I should think that the director would have ordered the scene re-shot if only to save the "extra" some embarrassment at being caught engorged, you know. I mean, wouldn't a dude find it weird to be caught in the showers, with other men, on some butch sports team, and have this thang pop a woody?
The more Ken Loach films I see, the more I think they need English subtitles.
I like the film's casual depiction of full-frontal male nudity - flaccid and erect - and wish more mainstream Hollywood films would adopt a similar stance in their portrayal of nudity. That is unlikely, however, given how apprehensive studios seem to be about the inclusion of graphic male nudity in their films, and how it will have a potentially adverse effect on their box-office performance.
We could NOT agree more. I think Hollywood just might have somewhat of a childish bent, too, you know? The trailers for many of the mainstream films are so silly, and puerile, with cheap laughs, stupid stunts, etc. I wish American were more ... if you will, European in how it views sex, sexuality and relationships onscreen. Until our films show as much graphic male nudity as we do female nudity, and as readily, then our films will always be mired in what I perceive to be a most conservative rut. It's embarrassing, actually.
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One gets the sense that displaying matter-of-fact frontal nudity of attractive men in a sexual context would be threatening to many heterosexual male viewers, and thus potentially damaging to a film's commercial prospects.
We agree.
In mainstream American films that purport to deal frankly with human sexuality, we are treated to tactful lovemaking and strategically placed covers. American audiences seem, in general, more threatened by sex and nudity than they do by graphic violence. Such is the nature of the hypocritical society in which we live, where a bloody geek-show like "Saw" can be celebrated for its audacity, while an erect penis offends our puritanical moral standards.
Yes, and how bloody skewed is THAT thinking?
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Well I know I have a small penis. I would definitely be intimidated if that were the norm, I'm afraid it would make women really look down on me for it since compared to the guy in this movie I'm tiny.
Wow, you ARE balls-y! Going on a public message board and admitting your schlong is teeny is quite something. I'd ne-ver, in a million years, do that! Ne-ver, ...
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The black football player who shakes hands with Cameron Diaz as she brazenly waltzes into the men's locker room is mouth-wateringly huge. Incredible cock. What a delight.
The white guy sporting a boner in the background of a scene was a nice bonus. :)