Why was this film a flop??
It had unbearable tension, brilliant acting, I don't understand why it bombed so badly.....
shareIt had unbearable tension, brilliant acting, I don't understand why it bombed so badly.....
shareSometimes people just don't buy tickets to good movies.
Fortunetly, they buy DVD's.
The DVD sales are better than the film's box office receipts IMO because America in 2000/01 was, or rather saw itself as, the world's unchallenged superpower. Since that time, much has happened, and maybe people have a reawakened interest in dangers past, the better to put into some sort of context the perils of the present.
Or, I could just be talking crap. Might just be word of mouth, who knows.
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People aren't bothered with these kind of films as they may learn something. People are more into those stupid spoof films.
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No teenage girls, no hip-hop music, no vampires, no love scenes, no car chases, etc. etc. etc.
"I'm not reckless . . . I'm skillful!"
MacNamara was a vampire.
shareTrue but, these days, you've got to be a young, sexy, Teen Beat cover boy to qualify as a successful vampire. MacNamara could suck blood with the best of them, but he wasn't going to make preteen female hearts go pitter-pat.
"I'm not reckless . . . I'm skillful!"
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Kevin Costner's Accent.
But in all honesty, the only way that movie would have been a hit is if Eastwood directed it.
If you ask me, they SPENT way too much on it - how did a film like this end up costing EIGHTY MILLION DOLLARS to make??
I don't get it.
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No kidding. 75% of the movie takes place in an Oval Office set.
shareMovies like this play out much better as a TV movie. A lot of people are interested in seeing a movie like this from the comfort of their home but not to go out for the night and spend $8 to see plus concessions if you want something to eat.
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The 1960's generation no longer goes to the movies. JFK isn't the icon he once was to the younger generations.
shareGenerations subsequent to that which defined the political awareness in culture during the 60s have let us down (believe me I'm one of them, I get annoyed at how unaware in the age of the internet people are).
North American culture is stagnant. Nothing exciting intellectually is happening. You can't stimulate anybody with talk of thoughts, ideas. Its all fluff now. I go out for drinks with people now and you get onto politics its "oh, lets not talk about that" and we get back on the topic of gossip.
I loved the movie, I don't care about Costner's accent. I find this kind of political military thriller... well thrilling. My generation has no patience, no ability to enjoy that sort of thing.
I wish they made more movies like this. Its why I like watching British and European TV and cinema. They definitely have lots more exciting stuff like this than we do.
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I saw this movie at the theater with my dad when I was around 13 years old. Oddly enough the reason why I wanted to see it was because I read on the internet that the Lord of the Rings trailer was attached to this movie.
I was probably not expecting to see a good movie. Hell, I probably didn't even know what this movie was even about until I watched it. After I saw it I was relatively pleased with what I saw.
Now, at the age of 25 I realize that this movie still holds up well with the actual events that took place during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Nothing too over the top but more of an intense political thriller that actually happened.
The reason why I think this film flopped is that it came out in January. I believe that this film would have at least made a profit if it was released in the spring/summer of 2001.
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I suppose if they had gone the route of a movie like Pearl Harbor and made a movie in which Kenny O'Donnell had an affair w/Jackie Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis just happened to be playing out then it might have generated more revenue. As alluded to in the earlier posts, docudramas unfortunately do not generate the revenue they used to. It is a shame as this movie depicts the closest the US and USSR ever came to nuclear war. Had that happened, we would definately be living in a much different world today.
shareI think much of the reason is that younger people today don't appreciate what a scary time it was back in the early 60's. You should see some of the comments over on the "Fail Safe" board. Many of the comments, especially from the younger ones, are along the lines of "people back then must have been really stupid to be so scared of a nuclear war breaking out", and so on.
To fully appreciate it, you had to have lived through the period. People of that age (myself included) are more likely to buy DVDs than to go to the movies.
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In a sense, Thirteen Days was not a flop, but suffered as a result of an overbloated budget. It grossed, according to this site, $34,566,746 during its run from 2000 - 2001. According to IMDb, the following movies grossed these amounts: 1994 Quiz Show ($24,822,619), 2004 Kinsey ($10,214,647), 2005 Good Night and Good Luck ($31,501,218) and 2008 Frost/Nixon ($18,593,156). These all were excellent movies with excellent acting but they did not gross a lot of money. In comparison, Thirteen Days did quite well.
i agree that the younger generations don't want to spend their money on these type of historical based movies, with little action and no mind blowing special effects, and the people who lived during the times upon which these movies are based don't want to go to a theater to see movies about these types of historical events, especially when they know how they turned out.
Can anyone out there think of movies of this ilk that did well at the box office? The only one that comes to my mind is the 1976 All the President's Men which grossed $70,600,000. And that was in 1976 dollars. But it was also made just a short time after the actual events when people were interested in finding out what and who had brought down Nixon.
Simply because it told something of the truth and unless the Americans are seen to be whiter than white, they don't like it. It's unfortunate but just as the US is quick to dramatise, and film, major incidents relatively quickly after they happen (9/11, Bin Laden's death, etc.) they are also very sensitive to anything that shows that mistakes were made by them.
Fact - The Americans started the crisis by placing Jupiter missiles in Turkey, the Russians didn't like being held to ransom with missiles so close to their territory so they put weapons into Cuba to even things up. The Russians also had subs within the blockade armed with nuclear torpedos (All this can be verified with the non-fiction book 'Launch Pad UK' which tells the story from the British point of view through interviews with RAF and USAF personnel stationed in East Anglia at the time, where the missile silos were). One incident of heroism recalled was when a US boat dropped a depth charge amongst the Russian subs and in the communication breakdown from the Russian authorities, the Captain was about to launch his nuclear torpedos thinking that the exchange has started, but it was through the arguments of one senior staff member on the sub, and knowing he would be executed if he was wrong, that they waited until communications were up and it was revealed to have been a mistake on the US side. That staff member was praised by the Americans a few years ago at a National discussion on the crisis, as having 'stopped world war 3'.
In the end it was the Americans backing down and removing the Jupiter missiles from Turkey which ended the crisis. The UK was less than 15 minutes from launching and the only ones who knew were the operational RAF staff and immediate families, and the book tells of how one one RAF man went home to see his family to find his wife had given their children the Christmas presents as they knew within minutes of launch the Soviet missiles would have destroyed the Eastern side of the UK. It also tells of how the British didn't trust the US to allow joint use of the missiles so, frustratingly for the Kennedy administration, the missiles were fitted with a joint control system - basically the warheads could only be armed by the American Officers, but they could not launch the missiles as that was the job of the RAF and both specific access to those keys only. Worryingly it also tells of how surprisingly accurate the Russian topological maps of the UK were. It stunned the British that spies could have created those maps.
It's a fascinating subject to read up on and this films seems to be (although there are some reported inaccuracies of White House staff involvement) a fairly accurate representation of events. It was certainly a known fact that the US were perfectly happy with sacrificing the UK to Russian missiles in order to gain a first strike capability - which means if that had happened, I wouldn't be here today as my entire family would have been killed.
I think people have a unfounded dislike for Kevin Costner. 3 years after The Postman (1997), 5 years after Waterworld (1995) both of which (IMHO) are nowhere near as bad as people make out.
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Probably because this story had been told too many times before.
shareThe unbelievably bad Boston accents killed it for me.
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