regadless the great acting of travolta and other cast this movie gives us an impression of the hostilty the american soldiers have and the clue is what happening to iraqi women i mean the rape and killing in acold blood !
shareOf course 'cause only American soldiers are rude. They are only ones who do things wrong.
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One incident should not label all soldiers in the same light. That would be akin to stating that all Arabs are terrorists. Speaking as a Veteran of the US Army, I find it repulsive for a soldier to behave in that manner.
sharePeople only hear about the negative, then they try to make generalizations... What are you left with but a blind and not to mention jaded view of things?
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They had an episode on Oprah where they had female soldiers, marines. & apparently the women are told from the get-go to be on the pill whether they are sexually active or not because sooner or later they will be raped by their male peers. Apparently this is common among American marines, the females are raped & their superiors look the other way & threaten or intimidate those who come forward.
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Hey Einstein, here's a clue: It's just a movie. Some people grab any excuse to bash America and ignore the other things around them. Are you really worried about the plight of the Iraqi women? Have you ever done anything to help them? Or are you just grabbing some flimsy excuse to lash out?
There are far too many American soldiers to generalize them into a single category when discussing their temperment or predilection towards illegal activities!
I am not Einstein and do not generalize american soldiers in one or more category but I am talking about some thing of the reality cuase I am Iraqi and we do not have to deal with their disturbed temperment or predilection about normal thing!
shareperhaps a kurd could say the same thing of an iraqi?
shareIf you're Iraqi, then answer the question. What have you personally done to protect your women or even to advance their right to be autonomous in your country? Furthermore, I am sure the average Iraqi woman is in no more danger of being raped now than before America's presence in Iraq. Sadam's sons alone should have been a threat to their security!
sharetens of thousands of soldiers in the US Army as in most countries, you'd expect a few loose canons. As in any army or any where really.
sharerude today. rum tomorrow.
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It's okay, honey. I...I was just talking to the cornfield.
Answer hllhart75's question. Have you been personally abused by an American soldier? We're all waiting for your response.
If left out, does sour cream go bad or go good?
Probably not a good idea to identify yourself as an Iraqi and try and throw stones at the US military on the issue of rape.
I'm in Iraq now, and one of the issues here now is Iraqi men raping Iraqi women. Iraqi men feel perfectly free to rape a woman out alone... in an Iraqi man's mind, it's her fault for going out without a male relative to escort her, and if she has no male relative, then she's up for grabs.
Insult to injury, the man isn't held accountable, it's the woman who is to be killed by a male relative as an 'honor killing' for allowing herself to be raped.
They're soldiers, what do you expect?
sharey'all do know this movie was made in late 90's right...I believe in 1999...ya know 2 years before 9/11...4 years before Desert Storm 2..but I do see your point...yes it does give some Soldiers bad names..(note..anyone else, past or present miltary, notice all the baddies were officers...just a thought.)
Look would everyone stop with the whole bashing each other side...remember both parties are being fed one side of the story...thus how it sucks that the US media focus on the negitives that our Marines and soldiers do....I'd like to post a few things about them but this site won't allow it.
Case in point...I believe it was in October of 04..there was a First Sergeant in the Army at is base in Iraq..(long time ago, facts are a bit blury) anyhow he was taking some time of duty watching some of the enlisted play a friendly game of basketball...now what happened was that a gernade landed near the soldiers playing..the First Sergeant ran and dove on the gernade taking the full force of the blast..thus killing him but saving the lives of the soldiers around him...now out of the thousands of papers, hundreds of news stations in the US...only One Station and One paper covered the story his home town.
Can't remember who said it....but " Your convicted of a serious crime...your on page 1...Your found not guilty of that crime they bury it on page 8.
Soldiers are in a rude business.
Sometimes they crack & do bad things when they are repeatedly, over-used, and mis-used. (not properly trained for roles they are forced into, by the secure, Washington top elected officials, bureaucrats, & professor types, [most who have never served in uniform] geniuses.)
Isn't it a damn shame when G.I.s offend the sensibilities of "polite" society.
Who was it who said, "in time of peace, soldiers and dogs, keep off the grass"?
Rude my God (or is it Allah not to offend anyone's sensibilities)!!! I'm sorry, but they have a job to do and don't have time to be courteous to their enemies and in Iraq no one wears a Nazi or Japanese uniform to distinguish them from innocent civilians...
Yes, the thing that always kills me is that most of the ones fighting in the name of good old 'Allah' hide their identity totally. Most other forces go into battle bare faced and proud.
shareThere is so much wrong with your statement. "...the ones fighting in the name of good old 'Allah' hide their identity totally. Most other forces go into battle bare faced and proud."
Yeah, it is called insurgency...what you've never heard of La Resistance in France during WW2, or the Partisans for that matter...or how about the plain coats during the American independence war? The whole notion of two lines of soldiers both waving their flags in uniforms and what not is a very old notion and best suited when both sides are of equal strength. When one side is vastly more superior, you need to be a little more crafty or be killed in 2 seconds.
Let me remind you, the Iraqis who killed Americans in the Iraq war were not terrorists, nor were the Vietkong in the Vietnam war. America INVADED their country and in their mind they were trying to stop an aggressive outside force. How would you feel if another country invaded America? Would you say "I don't mind" or would you fight against them? And let's say the American army were wiped out and it is only a handful of resistance fighters, would you wear a uniform to be killed or would you try to inflict the maximum damage to stop the enemy?
America is NOT the underdog in any of these situations, it is the bully - who has used its power over the past 60 years to push around countries all over the map. South America, "America's backyard", had been pushed around by CIA forces for years to install American business-friendly governments, same with the Shah in Iran, and more. Perhaps you should think a little more deeply about these issues before you say something as ridiculous as what you just wrote.
Oh and by the way this thread is about American soldiers raping women - you know just in case you forgot in your haze of jingoism. And about the rape issue, most American soldiers don't rape anybody, but enough do that it is getting noticed. What is worse about these rapes is that the victims rarely get justice - especially if they are a local 'ferners'. Where I live, 3 American servicemen raped a 12 year old girl a few years back, and rape continues until today with little, if any, justice for the women whose lives they've destroyed.
um..it's a movie.
shareWell.. Abt... If you ever get back on here..
When it's legal in a country they don't have a problem with. The bad thing is this happens all the time in Iraq and most of the time if a woman is married it is considered adultry.. Why don't you explain what happens to the woman to the posters if this is found out?
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If you want to be a smart ass, have some experience to back it up.
Oddly, the status and education of women was much higher under Saddam Hussein's secular Ba’athist power.
There may have been good reasons for invading Iraq, but WMDs, rape, education and health care were not among them: rape has soared since the US invasion; the Iraqi educational system, which produced a 95% literacy rate, has collapsed, and the formerly free, reasonably good health care system has been ruined by the US.
Saddam Hussein was a monster, but at least his monstrous reign harmed comparatively few. The slightly less nauseating US transitional government (have you seen "Collateral Murder"?) destroyed Iraq's infrastructure and then wasted Iraq's savings in a criminal way.
I have trouble deciding which side was worse.
In the long term, I suspect the US legacy will be more damaging to Arabs and Westerners than the legacy of Saddam Hussein. The US invasion will come back to haunt them - just like the CIA's backing and arming of Osama bin Laden, when he was an anti-Soviet "freedom fighter" (to use Ronald Reagan's words).